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    Quote Originally Posted by LenTsani View Post
    It's actually not debatable. It was a minor gain before the change from 20% to 30% damage increase, and now it's always a gain. Unless you are uncomfortable with the class and don't know how to move and still use abilities, you should always leave Gauss Barrel on.
    no, it's pretty debatable. for example, in a situation where you have pretty bad luck and get 5 split shots and have no oGCDs in that time period; doing 5 split shots in gauss is 910 potency, while doing 5 split shots without it is 700 potency+around 12s of auto attacks, roughly 4 with hive weapon. at 75~ potency per auto attack, that would be 1000 potency total compared to 5 split shots in gauss; 90 potency increase, or, a dps gain. if you get a 5th auto then it increases even more; but 4 at least is guaranteed. im pretty sure that if you were to parse with just using split shot and then slug shot on procs with gauss, then compare it to without gauss, the latter would have higher dps

    it's just something that's fairly difficult to manage; if you're not in gauss for oGCD attacks or leadshot its a dps loss, then when you consider clean shot procs or the actual potency of autos (it's definitely around 60-75) the math behind it gets a bit blurry (really im just too lazy to bother with it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Divebombs View Post
    What seems to be the optimal opener? I'm seeing a lot of different things and personal testing seems to vary. Is there one people seem to be gravitating towards?
    i think the most popular one is just frontloading all of your buffs at 4s prepull and dex potting after hotshot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cevo2mwB81o

    with fey wind you'd do this

    rs>he>bfb>hyper>hotshot>xpot>lead shot>reload>1>wildfire>2>qr+reassemble>3>rapid+ricochet>1>g.round>2>h.graze>1>blank>3*>2>3



    *gauss off after this, assuming you get the auto and put gauss back on before the next clean shot is a dps increase, but optional if you aren't comfortable with it or would rather just gauss stance dance after the clean shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cevo2mwB81o

    with fey wind you'd do this

    rs>he>bfb>hyper>hotshot>xpot>lead shot>reload>1>wildfire>2>qr+reassemble>3>rapid+ricochet>1>g.round>2>h.graze>1>blank>3*>2>3



    *gauss off after this, assuming you get the auto and put gauss back on before the next clean shot is a dps increase, but optional if you aren't comfortable with it or would rather just gauss stance dance after the clean shot
    Why did you reapply GB for the last CS when CS w/ GB is a potency loss v GB + AA? Unless you're guaranteeing yourself a crit increase potency. Your ability would have to hit for 225+ potency to be stronger in GB v with AA. Can use an ammo proc'd CS as an example

    220*1.638=360.36 (CS + GB)

    (220*1.26)+(80*1.05)=361.2 (CS + AA)

    Where I get my numbers from is the Increased Action Damage II trait, GB and Hot Shot. Multiplying those 3 together gives me the first potency. The second potency is (CS + (IA2*HS))+(AA*HS). Where I get my 80 potency for AA? I used the GCD timer to create a fair potency per GCD since comparing the 2 at their own timers would be pointless. Therefore at a 2.41 GCD, which is what I'm at, AA potency will be 80. Let me know if you see any flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    Why did you reapply GB for the last CS when CS w/ GB is a potency loss v GB + AA?
    the logic at the time was really just to get an auto in before wildfire exploded, since i knew slug+auto would be stronger than slug+gauss. at the time, i didn't really bother seeing if clean+auto was better than clean+gauss (or in general really, since this is mostly an alt job for me)

    you could just keep gauss off after the blank and it'd work fine/better as well

    something random; act potency parser puts aas at around 69-76 potency for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    something random; act potency parser puts aas at around 69-76 potency for me
    Try parsing an ammo proc'd CS and tell me what you get
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    Try parsing an ammo proc'd CS and tell me what you get
    yeah, seems pretty buggy with ammo procced shots. getting 100 consistently with ammo on proc (+9% dmg adjust), while proc with no ammo is 200

    potency for autos seems about right though with variance taken into account; about 73% of the damage of a raw slug/clean shot (100 potency), or 73 potency ish
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