Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[girlsimulation]

Has anyone tested a 3-ammo opener like

(qr 3 ammo) (buffs) hot shot>POT>lead shot>WILDFIRE>split shot>RELOAD>slug shot>REASSEMBLE RICOCHET>clean shot>RAPID FIRE GAUSS ROUND>split shot>HEAD GRAZE>slug shot>BLANK>split shot>clean shot>QR>slug shot>(wildfire explodes)?

I've been toying with the idea and I've had okay results with it, but parses are inconsistent enough that I don't really like to rely on my own wildfire numbers alone.

e: I think you end up trading an unbuffed, no-ammo 50% clean shot/50% split shot for a buffed, reloaded split shot, which is a gain of about 80 potency under wildfire on average. That's a potency gain of about 20 overall, so obviously it's not gamechanging.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

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If you got time for a 3-ammo opener, you may as well go for a 5-ammo opener using quick reload to refresh the timer. If reload isn't up before pull: Use 3 skills -> Quick reload -> Use another weapon skill -> Reload -> continue. Otherwise continue per usual.

Ideally you'd want to start with:
Reload -> Quick reload every 15s till Reload is up -> Pull -> Quick reload before reload if you think you'll lose your ammo stacks and cannot use reload without waste. But this involves a 50-58s pull macro, which is worse than a ninja huton macro. For those with a warrior buddy: Warriors may actually thank you for a 50s pull macro, as they may have one as well for "the ideal opener"

[Greywolfamakir]

Has anyone tested a 3-ammo opener like

(qr 3 ammo) (buffs) hot shot>POT>lead shot>WILDFIRE>split shot>RELOAD>slug shot>REASSEMBLE RICOCHET>clean shot>RAPID FIRE GAUSS ROUND>split shot>HEAD GRAZE>slug shot>BLANK>split shot>clean shot>QR>slug shot>(wildfire explodes)?

If you play in EU, doing your opener, the last slug shot is out of wildfire...EU servers, we are waiting for them !!!

[girlsimulation]

If you got time for a 3-ammo opener, you may as well go for a 5-ammo opener using quick reload to refresh the timer. If reload isn't up before pull: Use 3 skills -> Quick reload -> Use another weapon skill -> Reload -> continue. Otherwise continue per usual. <snip>

I'm not a fan of the five ammo opener because of where it puts your reload CD, but that might just be me being picky. I'll have to play around with it more.

If you play in EU, doing your opener, the last slug shot is out of wildfire...EU servers, we are waiting for them !!!

I have <30ms ping, so...my condolences.

[Myon88]

If you're like me and are too lazy to do any pre-pull ammo openers at all, you can still do what I do and do a "1-ammo opener" which does not require you to change anything at all. It's the standard single gauss round opener from the Shots Fired google doc.

Just put QR at the start of the pre-pull sequence (bfb, he, hc, rs) and it will come off cooldown exactly at the same time you use it in a normal opener. I really mean exactly, refer to the notation below - it's pretty much 15 seconds on the dot.

You get 20 more potency on the first Hot Shot, that's it. Nothing special, but at the same time it requires practically no thinking or setup timing at all, just start your pre-pull sequence 1 GCD earlier with QR.

QR, bfb, he, hc, rs
hot / pot
lead / reload
split / wf
slug / reassemble, ricochet
clean / rapid fire, QR
split / gauss round
slug / head graze
split / blank
clean /
slug

[Sleigh]

In raids you pretty much always have to wait a minute on SMN/SCH Aetherflow and maybe some other CDs anyway so it shouldn't be a big deal. In dungeons though yeah just flow with whatever you got.

[Myon88]

Yes you pretty much have to wait, but I'm that lazy. It's downtime I'd gladly take advantage of to rest - I'd much rather be doing my own thing tabbed out, or stretching and puttering around my room instead of staring at my timers alongside the SMN and SCH.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Yes you pretty much have to wait, but I'm that lazy. It's downtime I'd gladly take advantage of to rest - I'd much rather be doing my own thing tabbed out, or stretching and puttering around my room instead of staring at my timers alongside the SMN and SCH.

/ac "Reload" <me>
/p Reload 50s<wait.15>
/ac "Quick Reload" <me><wait.5>
/p Ready in 30s<wait.10>
/ac "Quick Reload" <me><wait.5>
/p Ready in 15s<wait.5>
/p Ready in 10s <se.10><wait.5>
/p Ready in 5s <se.14><wait.1>
/ac "Quick Reload" <me><wait.1>
/p Ready in 3s <se.14><wait.1>
/p Ready in 2s <se.14><wait.1>
/p Ready in 1s <se.14><wait.1>
/p Ready! <se.3>

I never got to use it because I'm always the designated healer for raids, though :P

[Aiurily]

to continue on the note of an older post on the subject of stance dancing

rather than full time stance dancing lately, i've just been doing something a bit more easy (and also more rng, but pretty rewarding when it pays off)

drop gauss after a procced slug/clean shot where you have no other oGCDs to use in that time period. if you get an auto right as you drop it, you are on pace to get 2 autos for the duration of 1 GB off ws; after that, you turn GB back on before your GCD has a chance to catch up to your auto timing. so for example

clean shot->gauss off+auto->split shot+auto>gauss on>etc

the concept is that, if you have no oGCDs and drop gauss after an instant cast skill, you have effectively a 3.5s~ window to get autos in; so if the timer is friendly, you can get 2 attacks in that window, then put GB back on before your GCD can catch up.

worst case scenario, it's still a pretty low risk dps increase if the timing is off and you only get one shot. this is the issue i had with stance dancing in certain places before; if you turn it off after like a split shot, or after a slug/clean shot that has an oGCD after it, there's a chance that your autos will fall behind your GCD, and by the time you put GB back on, you end up with a DPS loss since you missed an auto. with this, in the best case you get a nice chunk of dmg added on; worst case, it's practically a guaranteed dps increase still, and you can be fairly confident that your autos will maintain a 1:1 ratio with your GCD in that situation.

edit: video on it -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRrOK6pWz0w

[SpecialKK]

Hi I'm trying out by mch and I see first post is last updated in july. Is this not affected by last patch and still good?