Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[senjyo]

what makes this any different than the tomes you grind from roulettes?

Why it has to be different? I don't see people complaining about the tomes?! So you want to be different just for the sack of being different?

And if you really want to know what's the differences. How about you can't get daily bonus from low level content which you can complete with your eyes closed. (TBH I can probably do alex with my eyes closed too, but hey, it is "different")

[senjyo]

Cause people totally wouldn't just farm A2 all day for all their tokens or anything. Way too abusable.

You sounds like people never farming fractal for tomes instead of neverreap. And if you want a solution to that, that's easy, make 1 type of token drop in specific turns only and that token will be used to purchase multiple slot but not all. For example Turn 4 token only can exchange for chest/belt, but if you do turn 4 only turn 4 token drops.

[SonTensei]

Why it has to be different? I don't see people complaining about the tomes?! So you want to be different just for the sack of being different?

And if you really want to know what's the differences. How about you can't get daily bonus from low level content which you can complete with your eyes closed. (TBH I can probably do alex with my eyes closed too, but hey, it is "different")

i think its pretty boring that everything in the end game has become "obtain x amount of these and trade for Y items" personally. i wish there was more unique gear.

[senjyo]

i think its pretty boring that everything in the end game has become "obtain x amount of these and trade for Y items" personally. i wish there was more unique gear.

You are on the wrong track, you are bringing the idea of itemization into loot system. You can ask Square to make more sets instead 1 or 2 so that each one has unique gear set special to their build. And that has nothing to do with how the loot system should be.

[Lothar808]

Wow... People complain about everything. I know I will get flamed for this, but the new system is awesome for this content. Clears are super easy and even if you have new people, the mechanics are easy to teach. Statics don't mater anymore as someone mentioned above you generally have to run it the same amount of times. Join a static, join and farm party, or join DF. You have 3 ways to get your clears and 3 tokens to chose from on each turn. Another thing people don't mention is... You don't have to run these on your main class to get the gear you want!!!

If they did change anything, I think a tiered token system might be better. The tokens are based on the turn you get them from and you have to get so many of a specific tier to get certain loot. For example you need 4 A4 tokens to get a body piece. Or 2 A3/A4 tokens to get the gloves. 4 A3/A4 to get the legs. Basically simplifies the specific drop for specific item drawback of current system. Only drawback to this would be, people would form statics, run A1-4 four times and be done for the week not helping anyone else.

The Japan community complaining about this system makes a lot more sense though. They use DF to actually run content hardcore, and so they fight more random people for drops. American servers tend to form Statics/Farm Parties more and generally only use the DF for pickups, so we don't usually see the loot system as always fighting against 7 other people. IF we do go in solo, we understand that we will be fighting for drops, its part of the risk vs reward you take for doing the content with anyone whenever you want.

[Kona_Nightwind]

Wow... People complain about everything. I know I will get flamed for this, but the new system is awesome for this content. Clears are super easy and even if you have new people, the mechanics are easy to teach. Statics don't mater anymore as someone mentioned above you generally have to run it the same amount of times. Join a static, join and farm party, or join DF. You have 3 ways to get your clears and 3 tokens to chose from on each turn. Another thing people don't mention is... You don't have to run these on your main class to get the gear you want!!!

Welcome to the internet. You could give out free money and people would find something to complain about. This is just the appetizer. I can't wait till they release epic alexander. Most people complaining about how the content is to easy will start complaining about how it is to hard.

[Ashkendor]

You sounds like people never farming fractal for tomes instead of neverreap. And if you want a solution to that, that's easy, make 1 type of token drop in specific turns only and that token will be used to purchase multiple slot but not all. For example Turn 4 token only can exchange for chest/belt, but if you do turn 4 only turn 4 token drops.

We already have a solution to it, and one that requires no developer attention at that: the current loot system.

Seriously, I can't believe the amount of whining that's going on about this; quite honestly, it's simple to get items. Any player can acquire some pieces in one week and some pieces in two weeks. The chest piece takes four weeks, but hey, it's the chest piece. In any case, it's a lot less likely that you're going to go dozens or even hundreds of runs (you know, the way that people did back in Coil) without seeing a specific drop because there's 3 token types per floor and 2 chests. Those are pretty good odds. If you're having trouble getting drops because you're farming in Duty Finder then my suggestion would be to stop farming in Duty Finder. Put up a Party Finder or get some friends together to farm. Make at least a token effort to work within the loot system and give it a decent shot before complaining that the drops aren't being served up to you on a goddamn silver platter.

[SonTensei]

Welcome to the internet. You could give out free money and people would find something to complain about. This is just the appetizer. I can't wait till they release epic alexander. Most people complaining about how the content is to easy will start complaining about how it is to hard.

yeah and then complain about how they cant upgrade gear without hunts or having a static

[Kona_Nightwind]

yeah and then complain about how they cant upgrade gear without hunts or having a static

Bingo. If the loot system made it easier to gear up it would be the same people complainin about there not being enough content to do.

[AlphaFox]

Seriously, I can't believe the amount of whining that's going on about this; quite honestly, it's simple to get items. Any player can acquire some pieces in one week and some pieces in two weeks. The chest piece takes four weeks, but hey, it's the chest piece. In any case, it's a lot less likely that you're going to go dozens or even hundreds of runs (you know, the way that people did back in Coil) without seeing a specific drop because there's 3 token types per floor and 2 chests. Those are pretty good odds. If you're having trouble getting drops because you're farming in Duty Finder then my suggestion would be to stop farming in Duty Finder. Put up a Party Finder or get some friends together to farm. Make at least a token effort to work within the loot system and give it a decent shot before complaining that the drops aren't being served up to you on a goddamn silver platter.

Agreed, working with a group of never changing people should guarantee everyone has at least 1 item per floor in the span of 35-40minutes or so (4 runs, least my group is averaging 8min on A1). Assuming its flawless each run and everyone is happy with the item choice from the selection of what...2-3 different types per floor?