Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[WinterLuna]

You don't have to agree, but it doesn't change the fact that there are lots of people actually see the problem of this new system and debate and dicussion are being exchange. I don't see a thread like "Daily roulette suck, please delete the system" gone above 5 pages beside the obvious troll attempt and nonconstructive replies such as the quoted one.

You have to remember not everyone on FF uses the forums, everyone I've spoken to in game about the new loot system loves it. No matter what Square Enix do, someone is always going to complain about it. They can't please everyone and I highly doubt they're going to rework the entire Alexander loot system because they've got some negative feedback.

It's really not a bad loot system. As I said, most people are being disheartened by the fact they've rolled crappy and are raging over it instead of seeing the logic that they have just as much chance as getting an item than before.

(Edit, can't post again so I'll add here)

Your logic is still completely flawed.. You could farm Alexander twice and get your piece and farm coil 500 times and never get a piece. It's all RNG. People are literally complaining because their rolls suck. That's all it comes down to.

[Ophie-Mio]

I like the loot system we have for Alexander a lot more than what we had for Coil and even CT.

It's the CT system only superficially reworked though. Differences being that it has multiple floors and that in CT you actually get your piece on the spot rather than a piece of it.

[Giantbane]

Floors 1&2 are ... okish. It would be nice if there's another token, but after the first couple weeks people are looking for more specific items so you're not always rolling against 8 other people.

The problem with floor 4 (and to a lesser degree floor 3) is that this is the only place you can obtain the crank and you need 4 of them. So if you actually want the chest piece at all, you're going to need to be rolling against 8 other people constantly, and that's even if a shaft shows up. And then you need to repeat this for 4 weeks before you get anything other than tokens taking up space in your inventory.

Floor 3 is similar with the legs. You can get the legs on floor 4 also, but since that's the only place you get the shaft, everyone wants the legs on floor 3.

It would be much better (I think) if these highly desirable items always dropped on their respective floors. So one chest always contains the shaft, and the other chest has a 50/50 chance of getting the spring or crank. Floor 3 would have one chest always contain the spring with a 50/50 chance of getting the lens or crank in the other.

This would ease the farming up a little bit.

[senjyo]

You have to remember not everyone on FF uses the forums, everyone I've spoken to in game about the new loot system loves it. No matter what Square Enix do, someone is always going to complain about it. They can't please everyone and I highly doubt they're going to rework the entire Alexander loot system because they've got some negative feedback.

The same logic also go both way, I also knew lots of people that don't use the forum but also hating the new loot system. To be fair, it is an improvement that they going for a token system, what they did wrong is, instead implement 1 or 2 type of token, they implement 7. So you reducing the bad RNG for gear drop for different class, but you add a new RNG which people need to hunt for the specific token on a specific turns against 6+ player instead 0 or 1 and repeat that for 4 times?! That's what people are complaining about.

[Ashkendor]

but after u factor in the rolling against 6 others plus you need to repeat the same process 4 times , you will see it take way more runs to get specific item than old system.

What this does is equalizes the time it takes to get specific items. There is no getting it on the first run, sure, but on the other hand the only way you'd end up never getting it is if you gave up trying. There's drops out of Coil that I ended up never getting despite trying for months, even after it opened up to farming. Having bad luck in Alexander means you have to run it again because 2 pedals dropped and you wanted a bolt. Having bad luck in Coil meant that you better pray to RNGesus that your item even turned up. Even worse was if you were in a greed party and 2 other people were on that item with you when it finally did drop.

I mean gee, oh no, you have to run it several times in order to get your loot. At least you have the option to do so! Coil runners didn't even have that. You got one clear for the week, and if both items were for a dragoon and nobody played it, well you cried some bitter tears in RNGesus' general direction then divvied up via greed and tried again next week. In any case, using the chest piece as your example is kind of a bad idea since it's the only one that takes four weeks to get. Everything else can be gotten in one or two.

Better know your stuff before you white knighting for no reason. If this system is actually "better" than the old one, u wouldn't see this kind of thread has 20 pages + replies to it.

If you'd actually bothered to look through the thread, you would've seen that it's twenty pages of debate, not twenty pages of people agreeing with the OP. There are plenty of people that like this loot system just fine.

[Zumi]

In my opinion FcoB system is way better then this system. Which we are getting back next week for savage uses the same loot system

[Ashkendor]

In my opinion FcoB system is way better then this system. Which we are getting back next week for savage uses the same loot system

It's also adding a token, to at least partially do away with the RNG nonsense.

[SythSynner]

I feel the loot system is great like this. Gives everyone a fair chance and reduces the "Omg, DRG loot drops all the time" excuse. While I personally in a static I feel there are zero issues with this. Run each floor ~4 times each week and everyone has the thing they want.

If you are worried about not being able to get in a static due to your work time you can always MAKE YOUR OWN static. Have a static that fits around you not some one else. I am sure you will find players that will be able to do stuff at that time.

Side Note: My GF is not in a static due to her work, but I help her with your DF runs all the time. Bring some friends (or close FC members) to fill in the PuG spaces to reduce the chance of other players rolling on something you need. She has zero issues with her tokens.. then again she is VERY lucky roller.

Best of luck on your DF Token farming.

[Vespar]

So wait, the look system in Normal Mode sucks according to some folks, so instead of adjusting Normal mode you'll adjust savage? That seems like a strange way to fix the original issue players have with normal mode....

[Giantbane]

There's drops out of Coil that I ended up never getting despite trying for months, even after it opened up to farming.

The problem with coil is that each turn had too much potential crap that could drop. So the chances of getting your drop were fairly low per run, and then the chances you actually won the roll if you had to compete for it (tanks/healers) was worse.

I think they made a mistake by putting accessories in coil. If coil only dropped main body pieces and the accessories were elsewhere in the world then coil wouldn't have been nearly as bad.