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    Alexander loot systems sucks :/

    3.01 just came out and people are already complaining, and they should be because this new loot system sucks, so from what I'm understanding each level drops either a token of one of the armor pieces, the first level being boots or an accessory token instead of armor. This is looks really nice on paper, but once you so the first Alexander a few times and loose out on tokens cause you are always rolling against 7 other people every time on everything it becomes very frustrating very quickly. If you are in a static sure this system might actually be easier for you, but for those of use cursed to use DF and maybe PF we are cursed to roll against 7 random people hoping that we will get lucky enough to get multiple tokens from each level. There now back to slamming my head against this first level over and over and over and over until i have to go to work then come back to repeat as i watch everyone gear up around me while i will be lucky to get the first piece >.<

    Edit: Ravana and bismark ex were the loot systems every asked for this alex loot system is just garbage in comparison
    Edit 2: What SE did was take wow's token system for raids then said "how can we use this but make it different?" and then we got this thing that was like the jumping puzzles we got (sight seeing logs)
    that's all SE does takes things from other MMOs and some how ruins it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    I'm pretty tired of the whole "just get a static, and you'll be set!" Well guess what, there are plenty of players who are both skilled at the game and have plenty of time to play, but can't get into a static due to crazy work schedules. 99% of all PF's and shouts I see for people recruiting for statics say something like "we raid on tuesday wednesday..." well great you've already lost me, unless you're fine with me not coming half the time. I know from experience too, that while you can make a 5 man static work that schedules on the fly, it's practically impossible to find 8 people who mostly have changing schedules, and then find times where everyone can be on.

    Additionally, why the heck is all real endgame in FFXIV tuned for set in stone 8 man statics anyway? You can pug it in PF but good luck finding a group if you fall behind. In my event LS in FFXI we had raid nights, I was able to make most of them, but most nights involved multiple runs of some event, and we were able to sub people in and out for each run. Why can't this be the case in FFXIV? Why is it have 8 man or go bust? It's particularly damning considering 8 man static LS's have effectively either taken the place of your FC for the group of people that you progress with, or you do progress with your FC but only with those who fit in the initial 8 static.
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    Why can't you join a static? There are people who have all kinds of schedules. If you are playing enough to be at cap and doing the raids right now, you play enough to join a static.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    Why can't you join a static? There are people who have all kinds of schedules. If you are playing enough to be at cap and doing the raids right now, you play enough to join a static.
    If you have a decent amount of playtime, but not a regular schedule.. And/or play on a different region data center
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    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    If you have a decent amount of playtime, but not a regular schedule.. And/or play on a different region data center
    You clearly have a decent amount of playtime if you are geared and raiding at 60 already. Again, there are a LOT of people playing this game. You can find some who have similar schedules. There are many retail and restraunt workers in this game who don't have set schedules. How you handle that is a ls of similar people who can decide when to play each week. You don't have to schedule for 3 weeks from now.

    If you play on a server where hardly anyone speaks your language or plays at the same time, you have much bigger issues with the multiplayer part of the game than the loot system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    You clearly have a decent amount of playtime if you are geared and raiding at 60 already. Again, there are a LOT of people playing this game. You can find some who have similar schedules. There are many retail and restraunt workers in this game who don't have set schedules.
    you don't understand how retail and restaurant schedules work at all, do you....

    hint: playing with 7 other retail workers doesn't suddenly make retail schedules magically line up so that everyone has the same night off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    you don't understand how retail and restaurant schedules work at all, do you....

    hint: playing with 7 other retail workers doesn't suddenly make retail schedules magically line up so that everyone has the same night off
    Sorry to say this but maybe its time to stop play vid games. The problem is pretty much with you. I also have a heavy work schedule and im pretty sure SE does too. And i've learned to accept that i won't have time to do what i want in one day for this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    you don't understand how retail and restaurant schedules work at all, do you....

    hint: playing with 7 other retail workers doesn't suddenly make retail schedules magically line up so that everyone has the same night off
    I work at a cafe where things happen such as being called in on days off and I lead a static which has people who have schedules which are under constant flux (one had to work until midnight yesterday) and we get it to work.
    Just need to find people with flexibility, plan times when you know you aren't going to be working based of off preset schedules and change as the week hits you with new things.
    Have a group which is patient and mature about these things.
    Really, our group was put together near the end of ARR and we made it from having only 3 members clearing T9 to getting to T13, its possible if you are smart enough to work around things.
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    This is pretty much the exact loot system that everyone asked for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    This is pretty much the exact loot system that everyone asked for.
    Pretty much - many were complaining about the old loot system where they would see everything but what they needed drop, or that 'that' piece dropped 5 times in a row and no one actually could use it. That it took them 46728 runs and they never saw X piece, and that they needed to adjust their drop rates better.

    So they came out with this - where people could save up for what they specifically wanted and not have to wait to get lucky on that one piece they never see dropping. SE is just trying to give people what they wanted, but everyone knows no matter what happens they can try to make people happy, but they will never make everyone happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    This is pretty much the exact loot system that everyone asked for.
    I thought people asked for having gear still dropping from chests AND automatically receiving a token on every kills ( lockouts aside ) exactly like new Ex primals. This seemed perfect to me and was hoping Alex would be the same and to some extent every future raids and Exs.
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