Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Devilgunman]

Fact remains that: shot + AA > shot + GB.

Is this even true anymore? Correct me if I'm wrong after patch Clean Shot + GB does more damage than + AA, doesn't it?

For example Hive Muskatoon AA = 57.2

When Clean Shot is used, total potency + AA = 200 + 57.2 = 257.2

With GB is on, total potency = 200*1.3 = 260

[airshowboat]

Is this even true anymore? Correct me if I'm wrong after patch Clean Shot + GB does more damage than + AA, doesn't it?

For example Hive Muskatoon AA = 57.2

When Clean Shot is used, total potency + AA = 200 + 57.2 = 257.2

With GB is on, total potency = 200*1.3 = 260

You are correct if you are looking just at clean shot.

Split Shot:
GB - 140 *1.3 = 182
N GB - 140 + 57.2 = 197.2

Slug Shot:
GB - 180 *1.3 = 234
N GB - 180 + 57.2 = 237.7

More likely then not, IF you were to drop GB for a few seconds to get AAs you will be spamming split shots praying for procs because you have blown through all cool downs on wildfire. It is a very small gain for the added complexity.. But if you are spamming split shots and the occasional slug shot (with lead shot up, GR and Ricochet on cooldown), gauss barrel is still a dps decrease.

[Ryaz]

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Is this even true anymore? Correct me if I'm wrong after patch Clean Shot + GB does more damage than + AA, doesn't it?

For example Hive Muskatoon AA = 57.2

When Clean Shot is used, total potency + AA = 200 + 57.2 = 257.2

With GB is on, total potency = 200*1.3 = 260

You have to add in Increased Action Damage as well.

With GB of its 240 + 57.2 = 297.2

GB with IAD2 is a 56% gain.

200 * 1.56 = 312

So, yes, GB is still a gain over AA now with Clean Shot.

With Split Shot it's:

168 + 57.2= 225.2

Or

140 * 1.56 = 218.4

However, add ammo in there for the 20 potency bonus and without GB the damage is 249.2. With GB it's 249.6. So, GB scales much better.

So the higher the potency of the attack, the better it scales whereas auto attack remain stagnant. Slug Shot also comes out on top with GB on.

[airshowboat]

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You have to add in Increased Action Damage as well.

With GB of its 240 + 57.2 = 297.2

GB with IAD2 is a 56% gain.

200 * 1.56 = 312

So, yes, GB is still a gain over AA now with Clean Shot.

With Split Shot it's:

168 + 57.2= 225.2

Or

140 * 1.56 = 218.4

However, add ammo in there for the 20 potency bonus and without GB the damage is 249.2. With GB it's 249.6. So, GB scales much better.

So the higher the potency of the attack, the better it scales whereas auto attack remain stagnant. Slug Shot also comes out on top with GB on.

Also, correct me if I am wrong but I think the AA potency is 88 not 57.2. Just like all other skills, the potency doesn't change. AA potency being calculated by 2.64/3.00 * 100.

[Devilgunman]

Also, correct me if I am wrong but I think the AA potency is 88 not 57.2. Just like all other skills, the potency doesn't change. AA potency being calculated by 2.64/3.00 * 100.

Edited, wait...maybe you're right


AA Statistic is = (delay/3.00)*Physical Damage

So for Hive Muskatoon it's 2.64/3.00*65 = 57.2

But AA Potency is (delay/3.00)*100

according to this

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ttack_potency/

[airshowboat]

No. AA potency is = (delay/3.00)*Physical Damage

So for Hive Muskatoon it's 2.64/3.00*65 = 57.2

That would mean the potency changes with every gun? The potency of all other skills stay the same with equipment.