The Monk Temple Reborn

[Shincrimson]

How much SS is required to get off ToD after PB falls?

Without Form change Coeurl stance, a very large amount of SS ... I'm not hitting it at 582.

With Form Change Coeurl stance (Use demolish), as long as you can run 5 GCDs through PB (those being Snap Punch> Snap Punch> Twin Snakes > Dragon Kick > Snap Punch) you can hit ToD after the last snap punch and not run out of Greased lightning III

[Zamii]

Without Form change Coeurl stance, a very large amount of SS ... I'm not hitting it at 582.

With Form Change Coeurl stance (Use demolish), as long as you can run 5 GCDs through PB (those being Snap Punch> Snap Punch> Twin Snakes > Dragon Kick > Snap Punch) you can hit ToD after the last snap punch and not run out of Greased lightning III

im able to pull to do it without a single drop of skill speed (i litteraly just removed all gear with skillspeed to retest), its just a matter of not hesitating on your skills

[Ricdeau]

im able to pull to do it without a single drop of skill speed (i litteraly just removed all gear with skillspeed to retest), its just a matter of not hesitating on your skills

Latency can also play a role in this as well. While I agree you can do it without any SS a little bit of latency can make the difference of not hitting it since the timing will be pretty tight.

[Shincrimson]

im able to pull to do it without a single drop of skill speed (i litteraly just removed all gear with skillspeed to retest), its just a matter of not hesitating on your skills

By "it" I assume you mean the new opener, and not the old optimal one, right? Because I can't see anyone doing the old one with just base SS lol

[Zamii]

By "it" I assume you mean the new opener, and not the old optimal one, right? Because I can't see anyone doing the old one with just base SS lol

if you read back a few quotes, it was all about someone asking how much skill speed was required to fit 5 skill into PB, that being said, i always used my own opener for 2.X so i dont really know what the generally accepted opener for monks was, but that aside, i did try to do both ToD and fracter after PB ended, and i was still able to maintain greased lightning quite comfortably, i'de have to double check but im prety sure i could fit in 1 more skill if i really wanted.

i dont really think it matters much though, the new opener leaves more than enough room to spare for monks greased lightning.

[Humorless]

i dont really think it matters much though, the new opener leaves more than enough room to spare for monks greased lightning.

Eh, GL3 is applied at the start of the GCD of the skill. Follow it up with DK and Twin. Then BS-True-Demo/SP. That's 10.5 seconds with the current BiS. Throwing in ToD turns that into 12.5, which means you lose GL. The only way to fit ToD in after PB is if you make one of the last 2 hits of PB SP or demo. Fracture if you apply it with the last hit. This results in DK/Twin falling off, though.