The Monk Temple Reborn

[Sleigh]

If A1-4 in their Savage forms are relatively similar to the normal mode versions, in that what forms of damage coming out are the same, I'd see DK only having important meaning in A3 and A4 from what I've seen, but I haven't exactly studied what damage types are which because it's so easy. Who knows, they could go the T7 savage fireball route and take something of relatively safe damage and ramp it up 2X.

With the current balancing of the melee DK is really gonna have to be T13 levels of usefulness IMO for MNK to take a spot in a high end raid group. Even a better geared MNK would probably bring less to raid DPS than an i180 DRG/NIN as it stands.

[Zamii]

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from what i can tell so far, the mechanics that actually hit hard in A4 are either physical or not affected by DK on the boss, A3 really doesnt hit that hard though for the time being, at least in terms of magic hits, the only part that seems to do any damage is when he applies blunt resistance down on the tanks.

i just did a quick look over some data i had from earlier runs however and it looks like A1 we might be the most useful
gunnery pod (seems to be its version of auto attack? i'll pay more attention in a future run) is a magic based hit from oppressor/oppressor 0.5

EDIT: seems like i jumped the gun on A4, everything the boss itself uses is magic, and hits relatively hard, theres still quite a bit that isnt affected by DK however

[Niyuka]

If A1-4 in their Savage forms are relatively similar to the normal mode versions, in that what forms of damage coming out are the same, I'd see DK only having important meaning in A3 and A4 from what I've seen, but I haven't exactly studied what damage types are which because it's so easy. Who knows, they could go the T7 savage fireball route and take something of relatively safe damage and ramp it up 2X.

With the current balancing of the melee DK is really gonna have to be T13 levels of usefulness IMO for MNK to take a spot in a high end raid group. Even a better geared MNK would probably bring less to raid DPS than an i180 DRG/NIN as it stands.

All because of their debuffs, or are these classes inherently better ?

[ray1108]

All because of their debuffs, or are these classes inherently better ?

In addition to their buffs/debuffs DRG and NIN bring more DPS to the raid since Mnk have 0, because mantra and DK don't bring more dps.