The Monk Temple Reborn

[Hakmatic]

Im going back dragoon after progression, thats my thoughts. I was a dragoon until 3rd coil, and right now its way more interesting to play and is absolutely better in terms of dps/raid dps. Monk is still good just not good enough to take a raid spot after progression.

[Humorless]

Slashing/piercing damage everywhere.


Hammer/mace class please.

[Leonus]

As expected we are in bad spot. Our blunt damage bonus should work on MCH... DRG is too favored in this extension imho.

Thought?

Just going to point out, DRGs were in a bad spot for a really long time in 2.x.

I still think dragon kick will be desired in progression since drk is not a favored tank. Mantra is probably still good and the numbers I've seen mnk pull is comparable. I don't think a group is missing out on too much utility if they bring a mnk instead of a drg.

Besides, battle littany is on a 3 min cool down. So until it's up drg has stun and piercing debuff. So I don't believe mnk are in a bad spot at all.

Though drg may do better than mnk now in a turret fight, mnk will probably do better on fights with downtimes.

I think all the melee dps are actually in a good spot right now according to what people have been posting... damage wise anyway.

Need to get my mnk to 60 soon though. I like to switch between the dps.

[Shincrimson]

im able to pull to do it without a single drop of skill speed (i litteraly just removed all gear with skillspeed to retest), its just a matter of not hesitating on your skills

By "it" I assume you mean the new opener, and not the old optimal one, right? Because I can't see anyone doing the old one with just base SS lol

[Sleigh]

If A1-4 in their Savage forms are relatively similar to the normal mode versions, in that what forms of damage coming out are the same, I'd see DK only having important meaning in A3 and A4 from what I've seen, but I haven't exactly studied what damage types are which because it's so easy. Who knows, they could go the T7 savage fireball route and take something of relatively safe damage and ramp it up 2X.

With the current balancing of the melee DK is really gonna have to be T13 levels of usefulness IMO for MNK to take a spot in a high end raid group. Even a better geared MNK would probably bring less to raid DPS than an i180 DRG/NIN as it stands.

[Zamii]

By "it" I assume you mean the new opener, and not the old optimal one, right? Because I can't see anyone doing the old one with just base SS lol

if you read back a few quotes, it was all about someone asking how much skill speed was required to fit 5 skill into PB, that being said, i always used my own opener for 2.X so i dont really know what the generally accepted opener for monks was, but that aside, i did try to do both ToD and fracter after PB ended, and i was still able to maintain greased lightning quite comfortably, i'de have to double check but im prety sure i could fit in 1 more skill if i really wanted.

i dont really think it matters much though, the new opener leaves more than enough room to spare for monks greased lightning.

[Zamii]

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from what i can tell so far, the mechanics that actually hit hard in A4 are either physical or not affected by DK on the boss, A3 really doesnt hit that hard though for the time being, at least in terms of magic hits, the only part that seems to do any damage is when he applies blunt resistance down on the tanks.

i just did a quick look over some data i had from earlier runs however and it looks like A1 we might be the most useful
gunnery pod (seems to be its version of auto attack? i'll pay more attention in a future run) is a magic based hit from oppressor/oppressor 0.5

EDIT: seems like i jumped the gun on A4, everything the boss itself uses is magic, and hits relatively hard, theres still quite a bit that isnt affected by DK however

[Manu-Kesna]

Hello! I want to start using Monk and be good at it, I would love some tips and an optimal rotation for the job. My monk is only level 16 so I really dont know that much (if you guys have the fastest way to level up you can tell me too) Thanks!

[duceTRE]

Hello! I want to start using Monk and be good at it, I would love some tips and an optimal rotation for the job. My monk is only level 16 so I really dont know that much (if you guys have the fastest way to level up you can tell me too) Thanks!

I'm not that experienced, but I think the first page or two of this thread will help you in your future endeavors.

[Genocide]

I'm not that experienced, but I think the first page or two of this thread will help you in your future endeavors.

It would be nice if someone who lives and breaths MNK could start a new thread because the OP is MIA and the information is now outdated. I've always envied how good the DRG threads have been.