Endgame toxicity

[Lewtskie]

The logic is simple: we don't inconvenience others in df by going in to learn because that's supposed to be the more convenient method of looking for clears.

If we want to learn, we use the pf. Most of the times after a certain trial is released to the df, it's not as impossible to clear as EN servers seem to think simply because of the different methods in which we use to learn content.

Would have been nice if we got big signs saying "Use this thing in this way!" or "Use this mechanic for this situation!". But we didn't so it never had a defined purpose. People took to PF more since it lets you go in with a chosen hand, which people felt more comfortable with than just drawing at random from the deck. Even let you alter the team make-up in case you felt you needed more/less Tanks and Healers. That, I suppose, felt the more logical choice.

Not trying to be dismissive so much, but I would ask how often have you seen failure state through DF and what caused any abandons.

[OPneedNerfs]

Char Limit

It's really something that one needs to experience to truly understand.

Try going into a JP based server, assuming you aren't undergeared/without knowledge of whichever instance you are doing and queue for DF. The ease of clearing "extremely difficult content that requires pre-made groups" through DF will shock and amaze you. Which might also make EN based servers seem like they're definitely doing something wrong.

The times DF has failed has been due to people who simply do not follow the "rule" followed by most if not all of the JP players to come prepared if you're queueing for DF.

Not trying to be racist of anything but it's ALWAYS people with EN clients and not those with JP. Even then, the times when we(me and my friends in the same server) have run into said situations of failure are few and far in between.

EN players seem to have given themselves a bad name due to their mindset of "DF is for learning". I've had many instances where as a EN client user myself have seen JP groups who I get queued with will expect me to perform badly until I prove otherwise, which results usually in getting a shitton of commends at the end of it all. It's almost as if being on EN client and performing well are mutually exclusive in the eyes of JP players thanks to their run-ins with said EN players who go into DF to practice instead of looking to clear.

[Blood-Aki]

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This is true, i came from Mateus, a truly awful server in terms of progression for anything endgame, but the data center is shared with a high population server, but DF is just as bad, couldn't get a single EX primal done outside a messy Garuda. I came to tonberry and flawlessy cleared each EX primal fight and could easily farm them in DF, before i lost interest in the game. and would have done turn 9 if i fully understood jp method, wipes are rare and it's usually because one person came in unprepared. They simply do not treat DF like a "carry me please" session.

[Viridiana]

EN players seem to have given themselves a bad name due to their mindset of "DF is for learning". I've had many instances where as a EN client user myself have seen JP groups who I get queued with will expect me to perform badly until I prove otherwise, which results usually in getting a shitton of commends at the end of it all. It's almost as if being on EN client and performing well are mutually exclusive in the eyes of JP players thanks to their run-ins with said EN players who go into DF to practice instead of looking to clear.

I'd be interested to see how the JP PF success rate compares to the EN DF success rate, and vice versa. Since, y'know, that would be the more apt comparison. It doesn't make any sense to compare learning parties to clear parties in terms of successful clears.