Endgame toxicity

[Solsanna]

To be honest if you really REQUIRE voice comms for any EX content in this game, you're probably a little bad. They can help, but...other than a static, most people aren't interested in jumping into voice with a bunch of people who they don't know and have no synergy with. Most of the time people who make those groups are people who no longer have friends or were removed from even elitist places for having a big mouth, and small skills.

On the flipside? You can't be angry at people who honestly do want to farm and don't want to deal with new people. That's fine, IMO.

[Destomius]

Again this fking disgrace of pulling the RL card on a game forums.
It is perhaps they have a job and family to take care of rather than wasting hours teaching some random on the internet that they may not see again. It may sound mean/rude - but it is how it is.

Yep, agreed because that generalization is completely ridiculous. I'm out working an IT job for about 40 hours each week (or longer if more things need to get done), still managed to hit 60, buy all my law pieces, farm hunts for enough seals to upgrade all my gear, and farm Ravana EX enough to get my weapon. So when I do have playtime, I prefer to spend it efficiently.

[HexWeaver]

I've seen pretty much the same groups and toxicity here in Malboro, must be an FF thing.

[Intaki]

I've yet to encounter a leader of a farm party that has met the standards they set for joining the party.

[SonTensei]

The people who have already spent countless hours learning a fight for the most part don't want to spend countless additional hours to help a random person learn the fight.

The best bet for learning parties is to ask in your FC or make a LS, or your own Party Finder.

I don't think its about greed its more about not wanting to suffer through learning a fight again. lets be honest most dont find it fun wiping for hours and hours a second time

That said, for individuals who have cleared it before but perform poorly, then thats a whole other issue...

A farm party is meant to consistently be victorious and not wipe alot.. if you join a farm party but are not confident you can execute up to par, then dont be upset when people get mad and replace.

[Kydi]

It's more overt here than in other MMOs I feel. PF groups with those messages which are more akin to an endgame progression group trial and open world content (hunts) has caused many a shout whilst I've been doing the MSQ calling for the entire area to blacklist a puller.

However, the hard content farm (and even easier content) is being gated by achievements and a requirement for perfection in many MMOs.

[Intaki]

spent countless hours learning a fight

Let's not exaggerate here: you clear it once after a couple hours of attempts and you are eligible to join the ranks of these "elite" farm parties.

No one has ever spent "countless hours" learning an EX primal fight.

[melisande]

What you are experiencing is typical NA/EU attitude regarding endgame. I came from a JPN server, it was quite shocking to me as well the rudeness of the NA/EU PF's. I highly recommend joining a JPN server to avoid this NA/EU disgusting attitude of playing a video game to have fun.

[Malevicton]

They simply reap what they sowed. If they are rude, there is no reason to be nice to them. Right right? Just like textbook.
The thing here is, courtesy is always a good thing in almost any kind of communication and this is not an argument to prove effective communication. Therefore I'm not gonna make it very bitter and defensive like majority of those arguments out there and don't worry, it's not like I'm writing in this topic because I hate them or anything, nor I've ever hated anyone because of discourtesy because ultimately, it's their loss, not mine. Just saying being courteous to people, even if you don't mean it, will almost always give better results, no?

So if one person is being a dick, it's okay to be a dick to them? That doesn't work; now there's just 2 dicks. Nothing good is achieved.

Edit: You realize the quotes from before were things you said right? You've already gotten bitter over this, and were pretty hostile towards a very generalized group of people. I agree that courtesy would probably get better results. You should try it. Stuff like "be courteous or someone should kick your ass" doesn't fly for reasons I'd assumed were immediately apparent.

[mp-please]

What you are experiencing is typical NA/EU attitude regarding endgame. I came from a JPN server, it was quite shocking to me as well the rudeness of the NA/EU PF's. I highly recommend joining a JPN server to avoid this NA/EU disgusting attitude of playing a video game to have fun.

They also have a better player percentage than NA/EU data centers.