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  1. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Before every tank buster.

    However, most physical damage is still just normal boss autoattacks, so really use it whenever its not casting a raidwide aoe.
    This is actually not a particularly strong spot to use Radiant by default because bosses don't AA during tank busters. Then again, bosses don't auto during mechanics so there can be a lot of bad spots to do it.

    I use Radiant on pull no matter what because it'd scale off FoF/Berserk and put it on CD. Otherwise used when it's off CD and it will live out most of its duration, otherwise better to keep it for the next phase/pull/whatever.
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  2. #372
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    For the speedrun... wouldn't it be better to dot manually + bane instead of using 3D ? I'm saying that 'cause if the mobs are not dead after your dots fall off... then you can instantly reapply them + bane. (using ifrit)
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    Confused about what people are saying about Radiant Shield.
    Is the redirected damage based on who is getting hit or is all damage redirected by ifrit?

    Because from what I have seen it is all redirected by Ifrit and is entirely based on his buffs.
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  4. #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Confused about what people are saying about Radiant Shield.
    Is the redirected damage based on who is getting hit or is all damage redirected by ifrit?

    Because from what I have seen it is all redirected by Ifrit and is entirely based on his buffs.
    I actually assumed it was completely on the tank's potency but I've never tested it.
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    I actually assumed it was completely on the tank's potency but I've never tested it.
    Tried it out. It is on whoever is getting hit and doesn't matter at all about Ifrit's buffs at the time (unless it is Ifrit getting hit)

    Wow, it is even better than I thought it was in that case.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 06-26-2015 at 01:24 AM.
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    For the speedrun... wouldn't it be better to dot manually + bane instead of using 3D ? I'm saying that 'cause if the mobs are not dead after your dots fall off... then you can instantly reapply them + bane. (using ifrit)
    In dungeons in general, you should manual DoT each pull and save 3D if you need to refresh DoTs on mobs. The only time you should use 3D otherwise, is when you are waiting/running to the next pull and you pop Dreadwyrm Trance right before the pull begins + have at least one AF ready for Bane to maximize damage of Blizzard II spam in DWT, or perhaps in general with DWT if you want/need to refresh and plan on Bane-ing more potent DoTs.

    With Ifrit you will definitely need to save 3D to refresh.
    With Garuda, if things are dying fast enough and 1 set of DoTs + Contagion is enough to level a group of mobs then you can use 3D + Contagion whenever they are both up.

    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    It also doesn't matter if you wait a second or two seconds or 15 seconds to use contagion.

    Trying to jam so many things at once is altogether unnecessary and also doesn't even lead to dps increase.
    Actually it does matter, especially before you Bane DoTs onto other mobs. You can't wait 1, 2 or 15 seconds to Bane DoTs over because at that point you will need to refresh these DoTs much sooner and you are simply cutting into your AoE DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Tried it out. It is on whoever is getting hit and doesn't matter at all about Ifrit's buffs at the time (unless it is Ifrit getting hit)

    Wow, it is even better than I thought it was in that case.
    To my knowledge it also doesn't have a limit for the amount of hits it can do simultaneously if multiple people are suffering damage.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 06-26-2015 at 03:26 AM.

  7. #377
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    Oi, I didn't realize they were talking about AoE.
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  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Oi, I didn't realize they were talking about AoE.
    Sunakos video is on a single target experience. But the issue would extend itself into AoE environments should you choose to ever combine 3D and Contagion with the intent of using Bane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    For the speedrun... wouldn't it be better to dot manually + bane instead of using 3D ? I'm saying that 'cause if the mobs are not dead after your dots fall off... then you can instantly reapply them + bane. (using ifrit)
    Here's the differences I'm looking at so far for SR's and whether Ifrit or Garuda is best.

    Radiant Shield VS Aerial Slash

    Radiant Shield's damage is based off the damage output of the target being attacked (Generally the Tank) and is also a 50 Potency physical attack (Physical Damage is lower than Magical) - So how much damage will a tank do with a 50 Potency attack over 20s of being hit with physical attacks.
    Best case scenario ~6 hits per mob? (300 Potency per mob)

    Flaming Crush - 110 Physical Potency

    Aerial Slash (Magic 90 Potency still? Haven't checked since patch TBH) is based off Pet Damage (Rouse/Spur etc)

    So far most large pulls of mobs die in a single 3D + Contagion Bane which leaves an extra AF for Pain instead of Dot Re-Application.

    So really I guess I'm comparing a Buffed Aerial Slash + an extra Pain Flare and overall quicker setup VS Ifrit better single target damage, Radiant + Buffed Physical 110 Potency AOE.

    In total I think it's pretty close, but I just find that everything lines up so much better using Garuda for the adds and Ifrit for bosses.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 06-26-2015 at 03:50 AM.
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  10. #380
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    Does anyone have any tips for playing on a PS4 controller? I was fine in 2.x but now it feels a bit difficult to juggle all these skills and stuff.
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