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    Do anybody else have that kind of issue if you use 3D and contagion? Contagion do not have effect at all sometimes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChpV...ature=youtu.be
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    Last edited by Sunako; 06-25-2015 at 05:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Do anybody else have that kind of issue if you use 3D and contagion? Contagion do not have effect at all sometimes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChpV...ature=youtu.be
    Probably just a server thing. May need X amount of time before it's registered for Contagion. (saw that you used both immediately)

    Try it again with Garuda already attacking the dummy, I bet the delay from her attacking to using Contagion will be enough.
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    Updated rotation with me saving last AF stack to ensure I enter every DWT with full stacks. And also fitting in 2 festers in DWT.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0kNMmyMEZ8

    Parses at around 1120 in 3 minutes. Hive weapon, full I170 left side and right side.


    p.s: playing summoner on a controller is the true endgame ;-;


    Now to level BLM to see what all the complaints are about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    p.s: playing summoner on a controller is the true endgame ;-;
    It's worse when you try to make hotkeys by adding a keyboard to the mix like I did lol.

    I've actually been doing the same with delaying the last AF stack largely in dungeons to line up the DWT with full AF stacks both on boss fights and on general mob to mob pulls (holding onto DWT). I felt I was doing higher damage overall after having settled on this by the time I hit 60. If we are able to use AF stacks along side DWT, then I hardly seem the reason not to abuse that aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Updated rotation with me saving last AF stack to ensure I enter every DWT with full stacks. And also fitting in 2 festers in DWT.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0kNMmyMEZ8

    Parses at around 1120 in 3 minutes. Hive weapon, full I170 left side and right side.


    p.s: playing summoner on a controller is the true endgame ;-;


    Now to level BLM to see what all the complaints are about.
    I noticed you let Shadow Flare fall off and stay off for a few GCDs more than once. Was this an execution error or is this intentional? I don't really know how SMN at 60 works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    I noticed you let Shadow Flare fall off and stay off for a few GCDs more than once. Was this an execution error or is this intentional? I don't really know how SMN at 60 works.
    Yeah because there are other things that gets priority like not letting the main dots fall off, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Updated rotation with me saving last AF stack to ensure I enter every DWT with full stacks. And also fitting in 2 festers in DWT.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0kNMmyMEZ8

    Parses at around 1120 in 3 minutes. Hive weapon, full I170 left side and right side.


    p.s: playing summoner on a controller is the true endgame ;-;


    Now to level BLM to see what all the complaints are about.
    Would you mind linking your parse? This is my initial test parse with garuda at i180 +hive with about 1000+dps @ 4 minutes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FV-5V58Vo8

    It's pretty solid at the moment, but I'll be working on reallocating my Aether stacks and DWT timings because I think I can end up pulling more at the four minute mark. I'm going to be testing Ifrit over the next few days, since I think he has the potential to parse higher in actual fights where party damage is going out.

    EDIT: I'll go ahead and copy/pasta my actual rotation and explanation behind it which is under the video..

    Opener: Pre-pop Spur + Rouse + Quelling Strikes , Precast Bio II (Enkindle) , Miasma , Bio I (Energy Drain) , Fester (Pain Flare) , Dreadwyrm Trance (Raging Strikes + Pot) , Tri-disaster (Aetherflow) , Miasma II (Swift Cast) , Shadowflare (Fester + Contagion) , Ruin III , Ruin III (Pain Flare) , Death Flare , Ruin II (Fester)

    From this point on maintain your DoTs and continue spamming Ruin II when you are able. When Dreadwyrm Trance comes back up use it and re-apply your DoTs and cast Ruin III when able, closing with Death Flare. Burn your next set of Aether stacks to line up with Tridisaster/Contagion/Swiftcast. From that point on Aetherflow, Tri-disaster, Contagion, and Swiftcast will all come off cool down at the same time and you will be able to re-apply 10%+ damage contagion'd DoTs every minute, while also allowing the optimal amount of Ruin III casts within Dreadwyrm Trance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forge View Post
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    Since I am playing on PS4, I usually have someone parsing for me and I didn't ask him to save that parse pic for me but I will post one soonish.

    After watching your video, there are a couple of things I noticed however that might improve your DPS.

    1- You didn't use ruin 3 on your opener before Deathflare. You could have used Ruin 3 > Ruin 2 > Deathflare instead of two Ruin 2s.

    2- You shouldn't be blowing all your AF stacks like that on ED+Painflare on anything but the opener in my opinion(or if a mob/boss is about to die).

    3- You can space out your festers in the time you are waiting for another Aetherflow to come off cd, ensuring that you enter every DWT stance with full stacks.

    4- You can fit in two festers in every DWT by following number 3 :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Do anybody else have that kind of issue if you use 3D and contagion? Contagion do not have effect at all sometimes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChpV...ature=youtu.be
    Just wanted to confirm this is an issue I have experienced too. It doesn't happen all the time but it is an annoyance when it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Just wanted to confirm this is an issue I have experienced too. It doesn't happen all the time but it is an annoyance when it does.
    Have you reported this as a bug? I've not seen this myself yet but it's certainly worth posting it on the bug reporting forum to make them aware of it if they aren't already.
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