Lootmaster: The Greatest Abuse tool.

[Raist]

Another point about lootmaster some if you may be overlooking is how it can hold all items in the queue. With the current system the items eventually get distributed whether anyone lots or not---items fall to the floor if the random winner can't acquire it (or passed). When one person is manually assigning drops, you can hold them longer...gather a larger pool of items so maybe people have better opportunity to get items they want/need. Think back to sky LS and such...can't roll on a more coveted item at the end of a run because you spent your points on an item earlier.

In statics or otherwise preformed situations it can provide much more flexibility/opportunity in the long run than the normal lottery system.

[MetaRed]

I don't understand the OPs issue with them adding this as a feature. It's just that a feature and it's very clearly identified in the UI when a party leader specifies this.

If you don't want to play using this feature then don't join parties using it to do content. Personally I don't care for the loot master concept so I probably won't join party finders that use it and my progression static won't use it because we all know each other, but I'm sure some groups may like it.

All in all its a feature they added and I don't really think we should be upset the developers added a feature to a game that is optional.

[Neuflune]

Because it *will* be "the norm".

Go look at every other game with loot master. It *iis* " the norm".

Sigh.

Even if it is "the norm", just make your own group in party finder.

[MageBlack]

I think this is only for preformed parties, not PUG's.

[Nestama]

Because it *will* be "the norm".

Go look at every other game with loot master. It *iis* " the norm".

And again, if the Loot Master decides to cheat you out of an item that you have locked, you can report them. There is nothing to be worried about, unless you're someone who chooses not to report people abusing a system. Which is something that has been bothering me a little. People crying "loot master will be abused" don't seem to realise that this can be a reportable offence (G>N Lock 1 Parties are pretty much a pseudo loot master system. If someone rolled on loot someone else locked and won it, that person could be reported).

I also find it funny that people bless FFXIV's community to be very good, but the second something like a loot master system comes along, the FFXIV community is suddenly the most untrustworthy group of people in the world.

[Kaedan94]

Sigh.

Even if it is "the norm", just make your own group in party finder.

Yes, because people should be forced to compete with other groups to find members for their own group because an easily abused mechanic was implemented... >_>

There wasn't enough reason for SE to implement lootmaster. Greed only is fine, but the slight benefits of lootmaster are far outweighed by negatives.

[Malevicton]

ITT: people trying to convince themselves and others that placing trust in 7 strangers is safer than placing trust in 1 stranger

[AlphaFox]

I dunno personally when it comes to thing with a 1 week lockout or for example coil when I ran it many months ago in T1-5 and getting cheated out of an item. I don't remember if it was a 1time only pickup or unlimited but as a White Mage a healing item dropped in T1, I passed cus the other healer wanted so we agreed in T2 I would get it if it dropped, it did and he needed, won and ran. Least with a trust worthy Loot master, that won't happen to anyone. Plus as it has been said if they do, make sure to screenshot the agreement, the betrayal and report em.

[StrejdaTom]

No one forces you to join parties with lootmaster setup. I won't definitely join them.

[Enkrateia]

Greetings, all!

I can certainly understand the trepidation that many people may have ceding certain looting rights (or all of them) to another person. While this feature should provide a great benefit for groups to prevent certain errors or fraud, or to just make it easier for a group of friends to handle loot, the possibility of abuse of this system is certainly there. However, it is worth noting, the current system also has the possibility of abuse, and this new system is entirely optional within specific restrictions.

As with any agreement between people being broken, if the new looting system is abused, it should be reported to the GM team as Fraud, and we will investigate it accordingly. A few guidelines for preventing being affected by fraud due to this new system:

• We will enforce the agreements made between customers. If there is no agreement made about loot, then any loot option chosen will be considered to be agreed to on entering the dungeon.
• While the loot setting is displayed on the window to commence the duty, choosing a loot option that contradicts any agreements does not mean they are agreeing to the changed setting.
• There may be multiple ways for the same rules to be enforced, depending on concerns about fraud. Explaining the method of distribution before entering can help to prevent misunderstandings.
• If you are unhappy with the loot setting that is being chosen, leaving the party before entering would be advised to prevent a conflict about loot during the run.

As with any violation, the GMs will investigate and make the final determination about if the agreements were upheld and if there was a violation of the rules, so please do report it to us so we can investigate.

LGM Enkrateia