DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Teryaani]

A lot of arguments can be used for a lot of different things in this game. That doesn't mean that they aren't valid arguments or shouldn't be considered. Just as people are voicing that they want open-world duels, others can voice that they want PvP to continue hidden in instances.

Sure, but the aesthetic argument you used could just as easily be applied to literally anything else in the game.

"Bikini miqo'tes in Ishgard wrecks the aesthetic "
"Mount spam in Mor Dhona wrecks the aesthetic"
"Lalafells wreck the aesthetic for me"

I'm not disagreeing that you can voice that it annoys you, just realize that your argument will join the above ones (and more) in the chatter that comes from the forums.

Me personally? I have to fight the knee-jerk reaction I have whenever pvp comes up. WPVP abuse in WoW (PVE server mind you) was the reason I left that game. Given the frustration it caused it's hard not to shoot down anything that leans toward WPVP. Everything boils down to one and only one argument: Will this impact my game play? If I can be spammed, then I don't want it. If I can't, then just like the dragoon spamming the pole dance, I'll just pretend it's not there.

[Nalien]

Will this impact my game play? If I can be spammed, then I don't want it. If I can't, then just like the dragoon spamming the pole dance, I'll just pretend it's not there.

Well, so far I've suggested locking requests behind a minimum PvP Rank requirement among other things (having to be on each others Friendslist, similar to Mail Mog, simply having an opt in option that PvEers can simply never check, etc.), though this seems to be something the "No Duels!" crowd insists on ignoring. I imagine that would prevent you from being spammed though?

[Teryaani]

Well, so far I've suggested locking requests behind a minimum PvP Rank requirement among other things (having to be on each others Friendslist, similar to Mail Mog, simply having an opt in option that PvEers can simply never check, etc.), though this seems to be something the "No Duels!" crowd insists on ignoring. I imagine that would prevent you from being spammed though?

"People shouldn't be like cats", but we are. I think it gets worse online because of the lack of any physical feedback (expressions, tone). It's way easier to find a bucket (PVPer, Raider, Casual, etc) and toss people into it then to see a person's argument on it's own merits. I do it all the dang time and it's hard not to do it.