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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Then ask for a dueling server.
    MMOs that have PVP do have PVP server where the option to participate in PVP is removed, no one is asking for this, people are asking for a request to another player which can be both blocked and denied to begin with on a PVE server.

    People are asking for open world interaction for duelling against another player where it is asked, they are not asking for open world free for all PVP where you get ganked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Then ask for a dueling server.
    They should make a Triple Triad only server as well. I dislike walking around Gold Saucer or at the Adventurer's Guild and being constantly barraged by requests to card battle despite my deck being subpar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    They should make a Triple Triad only server as well. I dislike walking around Gold Saucer or at the Adventurer's Guild and being constantly barraged by requests to card battle despite my deck being subpar.
    Triple Triad is secluded into small locations and has the players just standing there. The duelling that you want is a lot different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    So your only counter is the same tired, inane, "I don't even want to see it!". Good to know.
    And your counter to the best solution (by far) is "I don't want to be inconvenienced, so everyone else should be!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    All the PvE players currently on that server who don't want to be on the designated PvP servers should also have to stomach those inconveniences.
    I said new servers for a reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    People are asking for open world interaction for duelling against another player where it is asked, they are not asking for open world free for all PVP where you get ganked.
    I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    And your counter to the best solution (by far) is "I don't want to be inconvenienced, so everyone else should be!"
    When walking past me having a duel costs you 70m, you'll have a point. Until then you're just spouting absurd bullsh*t.

    Fairly sure at this point you're one of the few people even considering seeing a duel to be an inconvenience. It is hardly an inconvenience to everyone, even people who don't like PvP are accepting that there is no real issue with seeing them. The concept that SE should invest in new servers and maintain extra servers, is some how a better solution to you just getting the f*ck over the fact that your virgin eyes might have to be sullied by people dueling is- at this point -hilarious, please continue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    I said new servers for a reason.
    I'm sure SE will commit to that when they can't even allocate enough space for Housing.

    Again, now your suggestion isn't just inconveniencing me, it's inconveniencing SE. They now have to not only implement duels, but invest in new servers and maintaining additional servers, just because you don't want to see duels going on, even though they'd probably be rarer than people doing Treasure Maps after a few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    When walking past me having a duel costs you 70m, you'll have a point. Until then you're just spouting absurd bullsh*t.
    No, it just costs me my monthly sub. When I joined this game they said that PvP would be instanced, and now you want to change all that when there's a far superior solution that wouldn't bother anyone not interested in dueling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I'm sure SE will commit to that when they can't even allocate enough space for Housing.
    If duelists are as numerous to warrant changing the tone of the game, I'm sure they'll be able to allocate servers to duelists. If fact, I hear that a whole datacenter in Canada will soon be freed up... so they'll certainly have the hardware for it soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Right the thing with this is, Yoshi said its only secluded to small areas for now (golden saucer is quite extensive in all honesty), and it will go open world at some point.
    When it's all over the map and as invasive as Dueling, you'll have a point, until then however...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    When I joined this game they said that PvP would be instanced
    Unless you care to point out some overwhelming difference between two people dueling and a person doing Treasure Maps, Hunts, FATEs, Levequests, or even just spamming Ring of Thrones outside Revenant's Toll, this point falls flat. You still wouldn't be forced into PvP, since apparently you have absolutely no counter/issue with the restrictions suggested.

    PvP servers, as was pointed out earlier, were with the idea of persistent open world PvP, rather than duel requests. It simply does not make sense to put aside server resources for duel requests. The only "leg" you have to stand on here is that you don't want to see duels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Triple Triad is secluded into small locations and has the players just standing there. The duelling that you want is a lot different.

    Right the thing with this is, Yoshi said its only secluded to small areas for now (golden saucer is quite extensive in all honesty), and it will go open world at some point.
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    So your only counter is the same tired, inane, "I don't even want to see it!". Good to know.

    Also good to know that you think entire servers should be inconvenienced in order to create (at least) three PvP servers (JP/NA/EU, or should the PvP server only be in one location and inconvenience more people?). All those people that want to move to the Duel Servers should have to lose any land they might own, lost most of their Gil and pay to move (though they could remove those transfer limits I suppose). All the PvE players currently on that server who don't want to be on the designated PvP servers should also have to stomach those inconveniences. Why? Because you're too inconvenienced by just seeing duels. As if people doing duels would somehow be more populous than people doing Treasure Maps or some other piece of content which pulls people into the open world for a change. As if there would be some kind of massive gathering of duelers all over the place getting in the way.

    I'm sorry, that's absurd. We're done here.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-13-2015 at 08:48 AM.

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    Why i am against Duelling? Pure Hatred against PvP. I played many MMO's and enjoyed many Classes until....

    PvP Balance Whiners ruined everything.

    So NO to Duelling and NO to any PvP related Stuff. Im really happy that PvP in XIV is more like joke than a serious Corner of the Game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    Why i am against Duelling? Pure Hatred against PvP.
    Well at least you're honest about it, but FYI, PvP is balanced separately to PvE in this game, so... What's your point? Duels wouldn't suddenly cause SE to balance PvE in line with PvP... Heck, most of the thread has been PvPers advocating duels with no additional balancing in place, since we can actually balance matches ourselves. White Mage verses Dragoon might be unbalanced, but I'd rather have that for practice purposes and balance a serious 1v1 myself.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-13-2015 at 08:54 AM.

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