The broken FFXIV Holy trinity

[TessaJalloh]

wear gear appropriate for the level of the dungeon and tell me mobs don't hit hard.

Fool. We're outgearing dungeons by more than 20 levels, ofcourse it's easy!

[Malevicton]

wear gear appropriate for the level of the dungeon and tell me mobs don't hit hard.

Fool. We're outgearing dungeons by more than 20 levels, ofcourse it's easy!

Honestly they're still easy in level appropriate gear.

Source: farming darklight gear at launch

[Cirgellon]

Honestly they're still easy in level appropriate gear.

Source: farming darklight gear at launch

Not easy enough for speed runs. If you try pulling everything, the party will die.

Source: Someone who just leveled for the first time 2 or 3 months ago.

Most dungeons should be pretty easy though. The raids and extremes should be hard. If they make content that's required for the story hard, they would have a much smaller player base.

[Malevicton]

Not easy enough for speed runs. If you try pulling everything, the party will die.

Source: Someone who just leveled for the first time two months ago.

Except you can.

Source: have done it.

If you personally can't do it, then w/e, but it's far from impossible.

[Cirgellon]

Except you can.

Source: have done it.

If you personally can't do it, then w/e, but it's far from impossible.

Sure you have... As if anyone would believe you were doing speed runs without even knowing the dungeons... You are claiming this when in reality you did it with alts who got gear from your main. You don't have the kniwledge or health to do it when firsf leveling, which is what the difficulty is designed for...

If you did it while farming, then you've already pointed out that you had run it a ton of times. Of course you will know the fight by then... If you are farming end game, you also have better gear than someone who just reached it..

[Malevicton]

Sure you have... As if anyone would believe you were doing speed runs without even knowing the dungeons... You are claiming this when in reality you did it with alts who got gear from your main. You don't have the kniwledge or health to do it when firsf leveling, which is what the difficulty is designed for...

If you did it while farming, then you've already pointed out that you had run it a ton of times. Of course you will know the fight by then... If you are farming end game, you also have better gear than someone who just reached it..

I was running them at launch, farming them to get the i70 gear. You could've probably passed my ilvl with the soldiery bonus from finishing ct/prae now. I dunno why you think I had to run it a million times before I tried to speedrun it. I had run it before, but not tons of times (yet). I'm not saying everyone can lolz their way through dungeons in i45 while blind, but it's really not ridiculous to expect passable skill from people near the actual ilvl req.

The person I responded to said the dungeons weren't speedrun-able at the req ilvl. First time runs are a different conversation.

Fine if you disagree with me, but if you're gonna try and cite my life story at me again, please get it remotely close to accurate.

[SDaemon]

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You mentioned farming them at launch for darklight gear. That would be WP and AK for philosophy tomes, which were well before CT or soldiery tomes, unless you are mixing time frames together, in which case a clear timeline point would be nice.

WP and AK weren't speedrun-able in the way we do it now. When WP and AK were current endgame starting dungeons, the "speed-run" method was for the tank to pull everything (running like mad) and die, healer revives the tank and you move on, skipping the trash (which ended up being nerfed). No one pulled everything and burned it all down like we do now. No skill invovled (if you were trying to equate speed-running to skill of all things.)

The dungeons weren't hard, don't get me wrong, but they weren't the speed-runs we make of them now.

[Cirgellon]

I was running them at launch, farming them to get the i70 gear. You could've probably passed my ilvl with the soldiery bonus from finishing ct/prae now. I dunno why you think I had to run it a million times before I tried to speedrun it. I had run it before, but not tons of times (yet). I'm not saying everyone can lolz their way through dungeons in i45 while blind, but it's really not ridiculous to expect passable skill from people near the actual ilvl req.

The person I responded to said the dungeons weren't speedrun-able at the req ilvl. First time runs are a different conversation.

Fine if you disagree with me, but if you're gonna try and cite my life story at me again, please get it remotely close to accurate.

You responded to me...

That life story stuff just proves how big of a dbag you are... There's really no point in continuing a conversation with a kid like you. You stated you were farming them though... You are claiming that I assumed something that you clearly stated...

You can't pull an entire dungeon when in gear that is the same ilvl as the dungeon you are playing unless you know exactly what skills to interupt and exactly where to go. Even then, you can't do it in many of the dungeons. If you are claiming you can, then you arent speed running like a normal group does...

Also, unless you just have no clue how to advance your character, how were you doing multiple runs of each dungeon and still in the minimum ilvl requirement gear?