The broken FFXIV Holy trinity

[Gunspec]

I know some people like to use the "I don't care about minions" excuse, but I still think you can learn much about people based on the minions in their collection. When a guy is complaining about dungeons being too easy, but he doesn't have ANY minion encountered in a dungeon, including the green slime from Wanderer's Palace (the quintessential "Pull'em ALL and NUKEM DOWN" rodeo show)... it makes me question his expertise on the matter a little.

I could ramble on about WHY dungeons are the way they are, what with new players and tuning to accessible ilevels, but I think in the end, some people just don't fully enjoy certain content. I don't have pvp rewards, for example, because I don't much care for pvp.

For OP, go ahead and run dungeons in 3.0 with the "minimum ilevel sync" option enabled. I will be running with that option off, so we will never see each other. I wish you luck.

[reillyblair]

biggest problem i see with making these dungeons harder is that noobs will just quit it would be good if the level sync/il sync actually worked so it was like you first entered that dungeon

[Mugiawara]

biggest problem i see with making these dungeons harder is that noobs will just quit it would be good if the level sync/il sync actually worked so it was like you first entered that dungeon

This is why the game is stuck in Baby Land for years.
People hate to do anything that's not a DPS race to the finish.
See:
Steps of Fate.
Pharos Sirius.
Ampador's Keep.
Then people have the IQ of an uncooked potato so it's like this.

[Nestama]

This is why the game is stuck in Baby Land for years.
People hate to do anything that's not a DPS race to the finish.
See:
Steps of Fate.
Pharos Sirius.
Ampador's Keep.
Then people have the IQ of an uncooked potato so it's like this.

You forgot to include Thornmarch Hard. That was nerfed similarly to Steps of Faith as well.

[Gilraen]

You forgot to include Thornmarch Hard. That was nerfed similarly to Steps of Faith as well.

Which was unfortunate given it was originally a nerf of the original 1.0 trial. Seriously, in 1.0 you had to kill all the moogles and still have a Bard use their '2hr' to survive the opening Memento Mog.

[tjw]

Which was unfortunate given it was originally a nerf of the original 1.0 trial. Seriously, in 1.0 you had to kill all the moogles and still have a Bard use their '2hr' to survive the opening Memento Mog.

It's not nice to exaggerate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKyVVtnmqE0

Namely around 5 minutes. There's no mitigation apart from Stoneskin and Protect on the party, and most of them were only dropped to half HP.

Let's also not forget that a WAR's maximum HP back in the day was around 4-5k. Which is the equivalent of an average-geared healer now. So we're way overgeared.

[Hayward]

This is why the game is stuck in Baby Land for years.
People hate to do anything that's not a DPS race to the finish.
See:
Steps of Fate.
Pharos Sirius.
Ampador's Keep.
Then people have the IQ of an uncooked potato so it's like this.

Don't tear a rotator cuff patting yourself on the back. Do you really think this game would have survived long enough to release an expansion if they catered only to people who say they want challenging content--whatever that even means anymore--but are quiet as church mice whenever someone new asks for help? There's a reason those dungeons and that particular STORY fight had to be scaled back: So-called "pros" wouldn't do them once they got their clear.

[Akashiya]

Don't tear a rotator cuff patting yourself on the back. Do you really think this game would have survived long enough to release an expansion if they catered only to people who say they want challenging content--whatever that even means anymore--but are quiet as church mice whenever someone new asks for help? There's a reason those dungeons and that particular STORY fight had to be scaled back: So-called "pros" wouldn't do them once they got their clear.

Pretty much this people would rather eat the 30min debuff then try to help people clear it.

[Mugiawara]

Don't tear a rotator cuff patting yourself on the back. Do you really think this game would have survived long enough to release an expansion if they catered only to people who say they want challenging content--whatever that even means anymore--but are quiet as church mice whenever someone new asks for help? There's a reason those dungeons and that particular STORY fight had to be scaled back: So-called "pros" wouldn't do them once they got their clear.

SoF:
I dunno what else to tell you if the NPC tells you what to do and you still can't beat it. It literally held your hand most of the time.
It just needed a re-try thing and by the time Vishap got to the end and you knew you failed, it was an impending doom, after 2 wipes people started to get the hang of it.
[SoF also needed to drop SOMETHING...Maybe a Vishap card? Something to get people to return to it.]

I for one, do tell people what to do and I do help and I DO ask people if they are new. I did Brayflox yesterday, I told the NIN to follow my marks, he doesn't.
The Bard to not attack boss at it slept and he says "YOU DON'T NEED TO FXXKING SLEEP THE BOSS!" after we died, twice because he kept waking it, then leaves. I looked at all 3 peoples and that was their only job level.
Even the newbie WHM was helpful and smart and he also gave advice. [He was like 38.]
So you have people who take advice or don't. People try to help. We get sick of trying because
people act like babies every time you try.

[Galdous]

Actually a way to make dungeons relevant is to tie them to your alt jobs somehow.