The Ninja Superthread

[silentwindfr]

don't get me wrong i know that the refresh of huton will be an increase of dps, it's a given since we will be able to use more raiton, however, it don't change the sole fact that the cycle is not smooth nor fluid, from my standpoint it will be near impossible to use aeolian edge if the new skill that refresh huton simply add a small duration. and there a question, why create a skill that will render another skill totally useless?

other point, if you think that the positional will result into a boost of dps, you are dreaming! they will change the skill, not add a positional trait past 50, means they need to keep the balance of the game for the one that don't own heavenward, if the positional is resulting into a up of dps for the ninja, it will render the monk and dragoon pre HW useless. and it was not presented like an upgrade of our tool, but really like a new restriction.

but i digress there, it don't change the sole fact that they try to make us dance on one feet, while juggling and avoiding arrow of fire shoot at us. but here come a point, that seems to be have missed a loooooooot. in the balance of a game, if a jobs recquire more skill for be played... it generally tend to be the jobs the most rewarding. however, i doubt severly that we will get rewarded for master a jobs.... that will be broken, we can argue about this, but it's the feeling i get.

we don't really get boost or new gameplay experience, but more and more restriction... indeed our dps will increase, they are forced to do it since the other jobs receive new skill that increase them capacity at deal damage and they can't make our jobs useless.

we simply need to look at the data we have gotten:
- add of positional on the skill already existing (and probably the new one)
- new combo not smooth nor fluid, but more complicate for... nothing...
- 2 skill situational, because the two enmity skill are situational, they are probably skill with a 2-3 minute CD....

and everything is mixed with the mudra lag... gosh, did they really really try this before say it's good? because i'm still remember Yoshida saying the player did discover stuff about the ninja that them tester didn't. i'm scared that the same useless tester was the one that did try this and said it was good. more bad, i feel they don't really have try to make our main tool, ninjutsu, get an improvement or any evolution.

and the worst, it's the fact, that the whole new expansion experience is a mix of systeme that don't mix well together. positional + combo not fluid + debuff and buff with too many different setup+ mudra lag. more i think about it.... more im' unable to imagine a cycle that can work. and i try only with the new huton refresh skill.... what if musou sandan it's a gcd skill? i'm sorry, but we can't make square pass a hole with a circle form. they really need to pay attention to the big picture instead to throw us skill without think about the impact on the jobs.

ps: and the thing that sad me the most it's i have the feeling that nothing we say is really listened... because in the end, who gonna play the ninja? them? yoshida? no it's us. if us the ninja community are already saying that something is not right, maybe it's time to listen to us. i'm more scared of the expansion for the ninja, than expecting it... and it's not normal

pss: i prefer be the devil advocate now, than regreting later when it's too late.

[Arkenne]

Devil's advocate

Frankly speaking Im not very optimistic myself. The MNK changes sounds quite more fun, altho Im still going to max NIN through the MSQ first and foremost.

And I gotta agree that so far the changes for NIN sounds more like a nerf than a buff. I will still just spam more Shurikens =-=a