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    *sigh*

    Why couldn't someone at the event just write down everything about the new abilities? That's what I would've done.(since they couldn't take pictures of it) Could've just written down the important stuff like Potency, CD etc... We wouldn't have this confusion if they did.

    What we do know(in that version of the game at least):
    Tornado Kick consumes GL stacks, doesn't give you one.
    There are no evidence of Elixir Drive using Chakra. In fact, we have gotten clear information about there only being 2 abilities using Chakra stacks, Forbidden Chakra and TP regen.

    As for the Elixir Drive ability... Lets just wait for further details on it. Making it so GL doesn't affect it's damage seems like a rather strange way of balancing it, instead of just reducing the potency...

    Quote Originally Posted by trailmix9999 View Post
    It's like you don't even play MNK.. It's PB, Rock(GL1), New Ability (Prolly Chakra, which if it is, is obviously oGCD despite what the doc says), SNAP PUNCH(GL2), Howling Fist, Demolish(GL3), Tornado(Drops GL) and prolly Forbidden Chakra(Drops Chakra). Putting Chakra on the GCD makes no sense at all, weaving it in between GCD makes more sense and goes along with what they are doing with the other jobs, making them more complex and not more cumbersome. Also it makes sense that SE would show off the new MNK system by showing us what the Chakra ability looks like right? That has to be Chakra in between rock and snap.
    Well, that sounds good and all, but SE have talked about Chakra like it's an ability you use during downtime, in fact that's the whole focus of MNK now... So if it's oGCD, it also can't have any CD to speak off, like very short. Also wouldn't it be extremely OP? 400 Potency is huge of MNK, and you would be able to use it very often.

    If it's a longer CD, then maybe, but again... How would that fit into what SE said?

    Also, while that PCgamesn guy isn't the most reliable, he does main MNK after all, and he played it much more than any other job... Would he really make that huge mistake? He would have to be a retard.

    Edit: After taking another look or 100 on the job vid, he do use Snap Punch like instantly after the Chakra ability... So do look like oGCD. I'm so confused right now it's killing me.
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    Even if Chakra is a 10 sec CD thats still 50 secs for a 400 pot attk, that is alot but not OP considering what other DPS are getting. But you're right speculation is speculation and we'll just have to wait and see but from the video alone, chakra is used oGCD and comparing the abilities shown from other classes (which all show their main new mechanics and abilities) it is highly likely that is chakra used between rock and snap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    No traits between 50-60.
    Again, this is why you shouldn't treat the PCGamerN stream for verbatim. He later on posted this in his AMA, which completely contradicts what he said during his live stream:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...andson/crlwmoo

    While the traits do indeed exist, I can't recall any of the top of my head. It should also be assumed that the skills I do have knowledge of with the new jobs are with the traits taken into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Again, this is why you shouldn't treat the PCGamerN stream for verbatim. He later on posted this in his AMA, which completely contradicts what he said during his live stream:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...andson/crlwmoo
    Oh god...

    Well, one thing still stands though, we've heard of the abilities with the traits on, because they could only play at level 60... So if there are traits, those would already be counted into those numbers. Doesn't mean the information is right, but it shouldn't be because of not counting traits then at least.

    Wasn't there a single competent person in that Event who could give some insight? Would be nice if someone could translate some from the Japanese forums... They probably know more than us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    Oh god...

    Well, one thing still stands though, we've heard of the abilities with the traits on, because they could only play at level 60... So if there are traits, those would already be counted into those numbers. Doesn't mean the information is right, but it shouldn't be because of not counting traits then at least.

    Wasn't there a single competent person in that Event who could give some insight? Would be nice if someone could translate some from the Japanese forums... They probably know more than us.
    Well even that is an assumption. There could have been things that were not added into the build they were playing. We do not know if that was a final build or not so we're still at a point where information is sketchy at best. I would imagine if everything was finalized we'd have partial patch notes, but since we don't it's safe to work under the assumption that nothing we saw or heard about is totally finalized and is subject to change. Sadly we're just going to have to wait a few weeks before we know any concrete information.

    And it doesn't appear that anyone was that thorough when info gathering at the event. Seems like everyone had a new stuff overload.
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