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  1. #1891
    Player
    NanashiNaito's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Nanashi Naito
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    The problem is we have to make such sacrifices to use Tornado kick and Meditation/chakra. Where other classes don't really have too. we have to sacrifice our GL3 or our GCD. yeah sure there's situations where you would lose GL3 so you can afford to do it or where you have downtime to meditate, but in relations to what the other melee jobs got we got boned. They get skills to help their dps and we get situational skills? Not to mention monks already have 2 useless skills in Haymaker and One Ilm punch.
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  2. #1892
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Character
    Commodore Butcherboy
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Haymaker and on I'll punch not useless I use it for PvP. But I agree with the rest yoshi and the dev team pretty much treated the mnk like in that movie called American Me lol
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  3. #1893
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    ncx24's Avatar
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    Character
    Light Juujigun
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    Turn 4: between wave drops
    Turn 5: divebombs
    Turn 6: breaking vines, running into briar
    Turn 7: cursed shriek
    Turn 8: running into tower
    Turn 9: divebombs, meteor streams, meteor drops
    Turn 12: phase 2-3 transtion, phase 4 dodge
    Turn 13: divebombs, earth shaker

    theres probably more if you really look close
    turn 4, you can use it turn 5 sure, but that only gives u what? a nuke to help with adds?,
    turn 6 if you play right you wont even get 5 chakras up bc changeform
    turn 7 shriek unless you get more than 2 you wont get 5 chakras up because change form
    turn 8 lol running in tower change form would be better to ensure keeping stacks maybe you could get 1 or 2 chakras but thats it.... thats not a FC
    turn 9 yes you can use it then
    turn 12 nope not really you would be using form shift to ensure saving of stacks and after that you would maybe get 1 extra fc
    turn 13 earth shakers you can do the tony hawk, and attack between earth shakers so no
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    Last edited by ncx24; 06-26-2015 at 01:26 AM.

  4. #1894
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    Ossom's Avatar
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    Character
    Ossom Possom
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 53
    Figured it out guys. Here it is, Optimal Opener (ignored most of the oGCDS) :


    Form Shift to Courel :

    Snap > PB > Snap > Demo > Tornado Kick > Snap > Snap > Snap

    I think that might be it guys.
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  5. #1895
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    Ricdeau's Avatar
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    Character
    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Figured it out guys. Here it is, Optimal Opener (ignored most of the oGCDS) :


    Form Shift to Courel :

    Snap > PB > Snap > Demo > Tornado Kick > Snap > Snap > Snap

    I think that might be it guys.
    What opener were you using without TK included?
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  6. #1896
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    ncx24's Avatar
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    Light Juujigun
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Figured it out guys. Here it is, Optimal Opener (ignored most of the oGCDS) :


    Form Shift to Courel :

    Snap > PB > Snap > Demo > Tornado Kick > Snap > Snap > Snap

    I think that might be it guys.
    someone did math with that opener and concluded it was worse than not using TK so yeah D:
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  7. #1897
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    Hakmatic's Avatar
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    Character
    Hak Matic
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Figured it out guys. Here it is, Optimal Opener (ignored most of the oGCDS) :


    Form Shift to Courel :

    Snap > PB > Snap > Demo > Tornado Kick > Snap > Snap > Snap

    I think that might be it guys.
    So your not going DK for 10 gcds and you are not going Twin for 8? Sounds pretty bad, from what I can tell using TK in the opener is not optimal at all.
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    Last edited by Hakmatic; 06-26-2015 at 08:39 AM.

  8. #1898
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    ncx24's Avatar
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    Light Juujigun
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    So your not going DK for 10 gcds and you are not going Twin for 8? Sounds pretty bad, from what I can tell using TK in the opener is not optimal at all.
    this, the rotation is change form -> coeurl -> demo->pb -> sp (IR)->sp(B4B)->TS(SP)->DK(HF)->SP(EF)->TOD(FC)->BS->TS->demo
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  9. #1899
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    Character
    Zakard Evans
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    what is the dps of a monk with hight gear?i have seen lot of video of other class and they seem to outclass us by alot....they spike burst in the 1800 and have 1200-1300 consistant dps while the one i saw with monk seem to spike at like 1300 max giving everything in the opener with PB and get lower after that.the mechanic of boss also punish us like crazy so dps suffer a lot....i start to think about rerolling DRG atm...
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  10. #1900
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Has anybody figured out the new suggested stats on equipment? Thanks to the changes in how they work, it feels like a bit of a shake-up and I'm looking at DET less due to the nerf and more towards SS and Crit, so a suggestion would be nice on what to aim for.
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