The Monk Temple Reborn

[PROBOUND]

Every ability should affected by GL3...If they make Shoulder Tackle back to 1.0, i can see we weave Shoulder Tackle into rotation.

What was the difference between shoulder tackle 1.0 and 2.0? I know they adjusted the speed which alot of MNKs didnt like.

[soulz]

What was the difference between shoulder tackle 1.0 and 2.0? I know they adjusted the speed which alot of MNKs didnt like.

1.0 => No range requirement, so can use it point blank. No more stun after 1st usage.
2.0 => Min range requirement, always stun.

[Craiger]

What was the difference between shoulder tackle 1.0 and 2.0? I know they adjusted the speed which alot of MNKs didnt like.

It didn't have that annoying range requirement... so using it while in melee range would be possible.

[Ricdeau]

I see no reason why Elixir Field would not benefit from Greased Lightning, or any other moves for that matter. Greased Lightning is what makes the class so adding in abilities not effected by it seems...counter intuitive.

[PROBOUND]

I see no reason why Elixir Field would not benefit from Greased Lightning, or any other moves for that matter. Greased Lightning is what makes the class so adding in abilities not effected by it seems...counter intuitive.

So that would make elixir field probably one of the most powerful oGCD abilities then? What would the potency be after GL3 is applied? I'd like to compare it to DragonFire Dives potency etc.

[GageRage]

320 potency on forbidden chakra according to Garland Tools. And Meditation shares recast timer with weapon skills. Is an instant cast ability with 1.5s recast apparently. Questions answered it seems if the info is legit.

[Ricdeau]

320 potency on forbidden chakra according to Garland Tools. And Meditation shares recast timer with weapon skills. Is an instant cast ability with 1.5s recast apparently. Questions answered it seems if the info is legit.

So it is on a shorter GCD like I thought it might be. That's somewhat good news compared to full GCD that is. They don't want Forbidden Chakra spamming because that would be really strong. So Chakra will likely be a filler ability to extend combos to 4 actions. So if you aren't refreshing something like TOD you'd hit Meditate to get a stack. That way you're still rebuilding stacks. Definitely need to get hands on with it to see what the best usage is going to be.

[Craiger]

So it is on a shorter GCD like I thought it might be. That's somewhat good news compared to full GCD that is. They don't want Forbidden Chakra spamming because that would be really strong. So Chakra will likely be a filler ability to extend combos to 4 actions. So if you aren't refreshing something like TOD you'd hit Meditate to get a stack. That way you're still rebuilding stacks. Definitely need to get hands on with it to see what the best usage is going to be.

Will have to see about that... that's 7.5 seconds of no attacking if you use it 5 times during your normal rotation. Using a couple of times during rotation maybe, but all 5 stacks sounds like it would be a DPS loss in total. 320 potency is high for MNK, but not extremely high by any means... Especially in 3.0 when many jobs are getting increased damage.

This is even more of a problem when you consider that Purification would use those 5 stacks without giving any damage at all, which seems more likely now with what we know of Forbidden Chakra tooltip

[Ricdeau]

Will have to see about that... that's 7.5 seconds of no attacking if you use it 5 times during your normal rotation. Using a couple of times during rotation maybe, but all 5 stacks sounds like it would be a DPS loss in total. 320 potency is high for MNK, but not extremely high by any means... Especially in 3.0 when many jobs are getting increased damage.

This is even more of a problem when you consider that Purification would use those 5 stacks without giving any damage at all, which seems more likely now with what we know of Forbidden Chakra tooltip

That's not accounting for possible skill speed reduction on the GCD of the ability. If it is affected by GL and SS it puts it closer to 1s GCD. Factor this into stacks you will get from when random mechanics happen outside of full on jumps. What I am getting at is that I don't think Forbidden Chakra is going to be something that's only used once.

[CouchOne]

Well, that's pretty shitty IMO.

At least it looks like the GCD while building Chakra stacks will be VERY short with GL3 and high SkS.
All other GCD abilites have a 2.5sec base recast timer, and Meditation's is 1.5sec.

Still going to be very situational other than stacking it before boss pulls.