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    Miscreant's Avatar
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    Claire Delune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I think you are using the word casual for bad.

    I can use my bf as an example. His playtimes are 'casual' meaning he is a full time student with not much playtime. He has over 50m Gil, all Lucis tools, cleared the coils, has zeta weapon, etc. People just have poor time management skills or are bad players.

    How is it that he has hardly any playtime and yet has 'accomplished' more then those who complain about the game who have all the free time in the world? He also runs our fc and organizes statics...all while going to a very demanding school. I am so tried of the "I dont have time to play and do things so the game should bend to my needs' mentality.
    Yeah your BF sounds pretty similar to me, I run an FC, have cleared Coil etc all while holding a management position in a 9-5 office job. I wouldn't consider my self casual at all, probably more medium-core.

    As for people complaining about Steps of Faith being nerfed, why do people even care? It wasn't challenging to begin with, it wasn't something like Coil where we had to work for weeks to get a clear. I can understand why people get mad at nerfs like Coil, where other people are practically given what you slaved for, but the last time I did Steps of Faith we beat it at the first Dragon Killer, how was that challenging content in the first place? We didn't have to work for it, we just went in and completely overpowered it, and for that I have no sense of achievement and no sense of bitterness towards those who have got it easier. Good on them, let them enjoy the epic closing to the 2.0 series, let them get excited knowing they are ready for 3.0.
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    Last edited by Miscreant; 05-14-2015 at 12:58 AM.

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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    As for people complaining about Steps of Faith being nerfed, why do people even care?
    I think people are more or less worried about the "slippery slope" effect. Like they fear that SE is going to just give in to the unskilled or lazy players every time they whine and soon SE will be catering to them to such an extreme that even the optional challenging content that we DO enjoy will end up getting whacked with nerf bats.

    It isn't the fact Steps got nerfed but more or less that "slippery slope" and the fears for the future that have players caring about this. Does SE have a line drawn that they won't cross or is that line easily erased...?
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    I think people are more or less worried about the "slippery slope" effect. Like they fear that SE is going to just give in to the unskilled or lazy players every time they whine and soon SE will be catering to them to such an extreme that even the optional challenging content that we DO enjoy will end up getting whacked with nerf bats.

    It isn't the fact Steps got nerfed but more or less that "slippery slope" and the fears for the future that have players caring about this. Does SE have a line drawn that they won't cross or is that line easily erased...?
    Slipper slope is widely recognized under its fallacious form for a reason.
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    I think people are more or less worried about the "slippery slope" effect. Like they fear that SE is going to just give in to the unskilled or lazy players every time they whine and soon SE will be catering to them to such an extreme that even the optional challenging content that we DO enjoy will end up getting whacked with nerf bats.

    It isn't the fact Steps got nerfed but more or less that "slippery slope" and the fears for the future that have players caring about this. Does SE have a line drawn that they won't cross or is that line easily erased...?
    It's simply easing already existing content. Steps of faith was a story mission. SE saw some people were having trouble clearing it, so SE eased it so people wouldn't have so much trouble accessing the heavensward content.

    i doubt they'll be on the slippery slope anyway...seeing how the only 'nerfs' FCOB received is echo and a single add removed on turn 13.
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