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  1. #11
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    Stubbo Mackenzie
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Actually I think that ability to queue up for duty when you have your chocobo out would make the queues shorter than adding another DPS slot.
    Right at this moment there are probably hundreds of people who rather decided to take their chocobo for a casual stroll over the Eorzea than queue up.
    Definitely. This again is a self-perpetuating thing - it's quicker and easier to grind out the higher levels via FATEs, and it's easier to do that either in a group or with your chocobo out, both of which prevent you from queuing in DF. Apart from the daily roulette, I don't think I queued for a single dungeon from 30+ on my PLD, because in the time it took me to run through a dungeon with a 90% chance of getting horrible DPS that took forever to clear the place, I could just farm FATEs and get more XP.

    Of course, the flip side is that when DPS are faced with 30+ minutes of queuing while they can't party or get their chocobo out, they'd probably rather drop out and grind FATEs as well, so it probably regulates both sides of the queue as much as each other...
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    though the question is "would 5-man dungeons do any harm to the game?"
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Duty finger? :P
    I think you mean doodie finger
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  4. #14
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    though the question is "would 5-man dungeons do any harm to the game?"
    Wow, that is hard to answer. In my opinion it wouldn't. It wouldn't make queues longer for tanks or healers..
    But there might be also levels of this thing that I cannot just see as a normal mortal being.. developers probably know more.

    Probably the biggest problem of whole thing and maybe the biggest reason why they haven't implemented 3 DPS party is, that the game is based on 4man light parties and 8man heavy parties and maybe they would have to change a lot of coding while implementing 5man light party.
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  5. #15
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    Sida Bajihri
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    It's also a question of dungeon design. The dungeons, as they are now, are designed to 4 persons and towers for 3 alliances, some more pronouncedly than others. (Halatali hm is a good example of exacty 4 persons in mind design) New content could of course be designed for different amount of players in a party but the old one is not necessarily as easy to change as "just increase the mob hp".
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Kuro Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Back when I levelled up my DPS (I Lvl'd them all), I used to shout in cities/appropriate zones and ask for a ride. "DPS going to X, please send a message if you're willing to come along".

    "Tank going to Y, /tell if you need a ride.
    this is a FANTASTIC idea. I already have my respective Healer/DPS leved but as im leveling the rest, this will prove extremely useful!
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    though the question is "would 5-man dungeons do any harm to the game?"
    Yeah they might, because development resources would have to be diverted to rebalance the game around a 5-man party instead of a 4-man one. This is dev time that could be used for other things.

    Unlike when a lot of people moan and complain about dev time being used to make a pet or something for the cash shop, this really does impact development of other things.

    And since it wouldn't have the desired effect (reducing dps queue times), it'd be a pretty pointless exercise.

    Now, if they want to add another role (support maybe) then yeah sure.. but that's a more expansiony thing to do.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Duty finger? :P
    sounds kinky as hell
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    You'll still be waiting till the tank ques.

    All I play is Tank, I still have to wait for another tank if its an 8 man party. I grab a tank friend, the que is instant. Doesn't do shit if you increase the cap to 5 dps, still waiting on tanks.
    Instead of throwing in an extra player, give that extra player reason to consider playing Tank/Healer.

    Clearly even with the copious amounts of incentive to play these roles (fast/instant ques, mounts, exp/gold bonuses) its not enough for some people. Probably poor marketing on how fun tanking actually is.

    Because if that 3rd dps just played tank instead, 3 other people would get a run.
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    Kiseria Luna
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    Gunbreaker Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Actually I think that ability to queue up for duty when you have your chocobo out would make the queues shorter than adding another DPS slot.
    Right at this moment there are probably hundreds of people who rather decided to take their chocobo for a casual stroll over the Eorzea than queue up.
    Very much this. Doing stuff with your chocobo while qued would solve many annoyances and personally I have never understood why we can't do that. Just have the choco withdraw when everyone has accepted the duty. Another things was those quests you had do alone, just make the choco act like the player is in town when you enter one of those and we wouldn't have to constantly summon and withdraw him when doing main story.
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