The Monk Temple Reborn

[Truedragon]

lol some people are so funny. Look, ill be blunt with some of you. If you cant do 600 dps on a dummy as a maxed out monk, then you are not a solid monk. Up your gear or up your rotation. Period.

As for the earlier argument. I figured out a way to determine the true value of det. Unequip your monk. Equip all crafted gear. Now go attack a dummy and repeat the same rotation over and over again. Determine average dps after X amount of runs.

Now, repeat same exercize but this time, meld a shitton of det on your gear. It will have to be a large amount to make a substantial difference, but there is only so much det you can meld so I guess just max it out with maximum det. Now repeat the dummy X amount of tries. Determine average dps.

The difference between the first run and the last run, is the value of X amount of det you melded onto it.

Funny thing about all of these is disregarding weights, 5 ilevels on weapon has always been 10-20 dps, and 3 weapon damage has always been about 30-40 dps. Don't ask me why that is, its just an obvservation.

Ok, 2 things. First, 3 weapon damage is same as 21 str. If 21 str equals 30-40 dps, then 50 str = 71-95 dps. ALMOST as much as I asked for (100dps). Close enough. So unknowingly, you actually validated my claims.

Secondly, and this is for the rest of the people. Since we now know what dps increase 21 str gives us, using the above method, we can calculate the true worth of a det. This would lay to rest once and for all what the value of a det is. But will prolly cost a heft amount of gil. Now you talked the talk, time for you to walk the walk. I asked for a 750 dps proof, in light of recent comments, ie 50 str being 71-95 dps, I would lower this to 730 dps.

So 2 choices. 1) post 730 dps of a det stacked monk using criteria as described previously and not one different criteria. or, 2) determine det value using method described above.

No, because that isn't how Determination Scales. You've forgotten the two core principles of Determination. It's linear gains of damage per point, presumably as a multiplier, and the effect of this multiplier is scaled with an increase of Weapon Damage and Strength.

Determination at 600 Strength, per point, scales better with damage than you would if you had 500 Strength.

That's what you're failing to understand.

Reached max posts. Use the method above using a monk with 600 base str (or 630 or 660 whatever you have) and this will determine the value of DET for THAT PARTICULAR amount of str.

This works because we are determining det weight NOW aka on a i120 or i130 monk with the strength now. If det really scales per strength, then the findings wouldnt be much use next patch but who cares. The stat weights posted previously are gonna be next to useless next expansion ANYWAY.

Until you have evidence, data, parses, excel spreadsheets and graphs to back up your claims, please, kindly, stop posting because you're starting to annoy the majority of the players here.

Noone forces you to read. Drop your attitude. You dont own these forums man.