The Monk Temple Reborn

[Craiger]

The ability Chakra is on the GCD and does 0 damage... and you need to use it 5 times to be able to use the forbidden chakra or TP ability.

Every time you use Chakra instead of another damage attack, you're losing DPS... Do it 5 times and you have lost tons of more damage than the 400 Potency Forbidden Chakra gives you.

So you're only gonna use it when you can't hit the boss. That's why in some fights you're only gonna use it 1-2 times.

T11 example:
5 Chakra stacks applied before the fight.
1st. Forbidden Chakra
1 Chakra stack on transition to add phase
0-4(?) Chakra stacks when/if you get lighting debuff during adds phase
1 Chakra stack after adds are dead
(2nd. Forbidden Chakra)

It's very doubtful you would get a second Forbidden Chakra, unless you're unlucky with lightning debuff, or you're using Chakra when you could be doing damage to boss instead. It's worth doing it for one stack though, if you know you won't be able to get another stack from downtime.

[Odowla]

That seems like a really bad assumption, that you're losing DPS.

There are times where you would want to use it in the current rotation, for example. Demolish at 5 seconds -> Fracture is already on. What now? You wanna clip Demolish, or let it drop? Chakra, then demo = no wasted ticks. "such damage loss".
This is also /assuming/ its on the GCD. If we go by what the PCGamer twitch guy was talking about, SMN will complete shit.. soo lets not take his word for anything except for spellnames.

I think that, IF it is on the GCD, you would use it as a buffer. In my head, if you're not re-applying Twin Snakes and Dragon Kick at 2 or less seconds, you're losing damage. You want to do your lowest potency attacks as little as possible, so clipping them at 4 seconds just encourages using them more often.

So to me, using a chakra in order to re-applying Twin Snakes/ DK at 2 or less, while gaining the benefit of getting a Chakra attack, or TP regen, it will be worth it.

We're also assuming it doesnt have a CD, if it does we can probably just use it whenever it comes up.

[Dervy]

If we go by what the PCGamer twitch guy was talking about, SMN will complete shit.. soo lets not take his word for anything except for spellnames.

My exact thought, also. He never had any notes when he was speaking about the Jobs, many a time did he say "I think" or "cant remember", yet people I taking it for verbatim as if it's the bible.

Everything you read or hear, English articles, especially Japanese Translated ones, should be taken lightly and be used as a rough estimation of how it works.

They even said that they're still balancing the game, so all of the skills may mechanically change come launch.

[Odowla]

They even said that they're still balancing the game, so all of the skills may mechanically change come launch.

My point exactly. After seeing how fleshed out and mechanically flowing Ninja was, I doubt they'd disturb our rotations by making us randomly use this ability that only gives a gain after 5 uses, even if i CAN see uses for it. Thats like giving SMN's Astral Fire to stop their MP regen at random intervals.

I think really, we should wait to see how much stuff is going to change. We don't even know if our current cooldowns are maybe being changed, or anything like that at all, there's no reason to panic (much like the ninja omg positionals" panic right now).

[Zamii]

If we go by what the PCGamer twitch guy was talking about, SMN will complete shit.. soo lets not take his word for anything except for spellnames.

theres one major difference, the PCgamer guy was a main monk, idk about all of you but i for one would remember the changes that would affect me in far greater detail than everyone elses jobs

[Zamii]

you guys realize elixir drive uses the stacks of chakra right? its meant to be the alternative to forbidden chakra. 30s cd seems rather redundant to me though since it will usually take far longer than that in order to get the downtime to get the chakra stacks.

[Hakmatic]

you guys realize elixir drive uses the stacks of chakra right? its meant to be the alternative to forbidden chakra. 30s cd seems rather redundant to me though since it will usually take far longer than that in order to get the downtime to get the chakra stacks.

You sure about that? The alternative to forbidden chakra is the tp move, I dont remember him mentioning anything about three moves working off of chakra.

[Zamii]

You sure about that? The alternative to forbidden chakra is the tp move, I dont remember him mentioning anything about three moves working off of chakra.

the 30s cd im certain about at the very least, which means it cant use TP as a cooldown means it an off gcd, im prety sure i remember him saying it used chakra to but i dont have it written down in the notes i was taking during his stream though.

[Jamein]

As much as I love all the speculation and working it all out, the biggest thing we are missing at the moments are traits, we have zero idea what traits are coming, what if there's a trait that says tornado kick leaves you at 1 GL, or if using demolish gives you a chakra stack?

I know both of those are unlikely, my point is though even if we have all of the skill data, the traits could throw everything out of the window and I doubt we will know any of those till the patch note reading at E3. So far chakra seems like a nice little filler to boost DPS during brief periods of downtime, but depending on what happens it could be so much more.

Also, does anyone know if Forbidden Chakra was oGCD or required a GCD? I know the chakra building skill is a GCD, just wasn't sure if the release skill or the TP skill was oCGD or not.

[Masan]

As much as I love all the speculation and working it all out, the biggest thing we are missing at the moments are traits, we have zero idea what traits are coming, what if there's a trait that says tornado kick leaves you at 1 GL, or if using demolish gives you a chakra stack?.

As i can see on the movie with new monk skills hes using Perfect Balance next is Rock Breaker, new skill what we dont know what he is doing, next is Tru Strike, next is Howling Fist, Demolish, second new skills Tornado Kick and last new skill as finisher.
so for me looking on what skills hes used he got 3 GL stack. 1 GL stack from Rock Breaker, 2 GL stack from Demolish, 3 GL stack from Tornado Kick and when he got 3 GL stack hes used finisher skill to lose all GL stack.
sry for my bad eng.