Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Callinon]

EDIT: That being said I fully understand that groups need a leader, but just because you are the tank does not make you the default leader. If you are in a 4 man party and the other 3 people don't want you to be leader, then you are not the leader even if you are the tank.

Actually it does, because that's what "default" means.

Absolutely if the tank is new or if someone else is in a better position to lead a group (maybe they know the dungeon better, maybe they can explain things better, who knows) then sure they should lead the group. But in any random DF group, the tank is the default leader, and 999/1000 groups will just expect the tank to know how the dungeon works. Tanks know this and so they have to go in with the mindset that they're in charge because it's going to be expected that they be in charge.

That all being said, sometimes the tank is new. Sometimes the tank isn't super familiar with a dungeon. Generally when this happens, the tank will say so and someone will usually speak up and help explain things.

In the OP's example though, the dps just barked out a demand right off the bat like it was macroed or something. This is not the same as trying to lead a group. This is trying to commandeer a group. And it's trying to do so without first knowing anything about how that group was going to perform in the first place. Now I'd imagine that if instead the line had been "I need exp, could we please pull the universe?" that would've been fine. It's impossible to know for sure because it didn't happen that way.

I've been playing MMOs since they were text-based and called MUDs (nearly 20 years). I've played every role. And I feel confident in saying that the tank is EXPECTED to lead the group. Especially a random group.

[Skivvy]

MUDs (nearly 20 years).

Majormud <3

[Ashkendor]

I've been playing MMOs since they were text-based and called MUDs (nearly 20 years). I've played every role. And I feel confident in saying that the tank is EXPECTED to lead the group. Especially a random group.

Hah! More old people! I started off in the MMO world on JediMUD in 1995. :3