Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Arixtotle]

No worries it wont be changed because it's not the reality. Tank is as much the lead as the healer or DPS, team effort in team based gameplay I know it's hard when you feel entitled because of your overall required presence.

Shame that DF itself is the cause of most of this attitude being so prevalent. Used to be if you were a knob in party content you would wind up blackballed by people who actually want to play the game, tank or not you would have a hard time worming your way into group content because you actually had to live with the social repurcussions of being a jerk.

You do realize that team based gameplay doesn't mean there aren't leaders right? They're are always captains and coaches making decisions.

[Ashkendor]

How I feel reading this thread right now:

[Sigiria]

Tanks are not the boss of anyone. It's a mmo, it's played by a community, if you think you are entitled to rule the party you're mistaken. The tank job is to keep the hate of the mobs on him, the easiest way to do that is to get initial enmity, that why you pull them, it don't mean you can decide by yourself how the run will go.
In dungeon tank are not as essential as they think they are. Did with friends most of the latest dungeon with 4dps/4heal/4tank out of boredom, and had no problem getting a clear, every dungeon could pretty much be done with a 4 monkey team anyway.
If you do end game content you understand really fast that tank are not more valuable than any other member of the team, everyone as to get their game together to get a clear, if you play alone or even fight against your own team you're getting nowhere

Sometimes the attitude of the tanks in this game is really sad. (note that it's not only tank, they are everywhere) Once I got Shiva trial on duty as a smn, trying to get my egi on manual I accidently send it on the boss, proceed to explain and apologize asap. Tanks get in an corner and said you pull, you tank. I actually agree with that but maybe mistake happen, and if someone take the time to explain and say he's sorry it's probably really a mistake. Answer of the tank: "I don't care, I'm the tank I get to decide anyway". in the meantime 4 people die get raised and he decide that his ego his satisfied and pull. I tell him it wasn't very mature of him and once again he reply with "yeah but you're just a dps, I'm the tank, what are you gonna do about it?" and here's happened a kinda cool reality check, 4 dps that didn't know each other before proceeded to sheathe their weapon and started cheer on the tank, that suddenly got all quiet, 10min later and dps wondering if Shiva hard had an enrage before her astral party finally wipe and disband. Sure it wasn't very mature either, but it proved that you can't treat people whatever you want just because you're tank. (I tagged again afterward, got Shiva again with the same tank, we talked like human being before the start instead of acting like kids and got a fast clear)

In OP's specific case. Yeah the dps could've been more polite asking a full run, but he could've explained it to him. As him and his friend wanted it quick I'll assume he were more prompt to react with hostility rather than work a way to satistfy everyone.
It was selfish and not very mature on both part. In that case his friend needed a clear, the other 2 wanted the exp, doing the full run was longer but satisfied both side. But rather than sort it out at the start it did go. dps: Xp k bye -> screw this I'm the boss, I am the hero, I am the tank you'll do what I want -> tank proceed to run through selfishly -> dps aggro everything for his gain selfishly -> everyone act like kid and refuse to work together -> party disband -> new "people don't do it like I want to" thread on the forum.
Maybe one side had to show a bit of maturity and this could've been avoided.

[Zaft]

Tanks are not the boss of anyone.

No, see, I don't think you understand.

[Fynlar]

Uh... is it me or people are cherry picking the OP's post to argue against it just for the sake of arguing?

Congratulations; you've discovered the VERY PURPOSE of these forums.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Let me explain the difference between LEADER and BOSS:



Thanks for your time.

Congratulations; you've discovered the VERY PURPOSE of these forums.

Most of the people that are raging against OP, looks like they had a bad experience with tanks, which doesn't mean all the tanks are like that. And as far as I can see, the sole idea of having a leader, freak people out and they spit out poison from every hole of their bodies. Taking things out of context or, as I said, cherry picking what they want to read just to argue against it. It's sad, because that leads to an unhealthy discussion and it "drains" OP's energy trying to clarify what he already said over and over.

[Intaki]

Oh look, tanks coming together to defend their prissiness and entitlement. How unexciting and predictable.

[MirielleLavandre]

This is why I hate duty finder and never use it (except for WoD weekly since you have to unless full alliance) - entitled EVERY JOB. Not just tanks, but healers and even dps. I play all roles @50, but I never touch the DF except to help friends if we can't get a full FC group. There will always be that one person who thinks they are a special snowflake...newsflash -- you're not. Almost everyone I know has a tank job @50, even if it isn't their main - same goes for heals and dps. I remember a princess bard in FFXI who continuously was toxic to the Shiva server -- after about 2-3 weeks of it, we'd see him sitting in Jeuno shouting for an xp party because no one wanted him / eventually he left the server or made a new character. If only this was still the case...yet, there is no accountability for entitled attitudes and probably never will be in FF14.

[Hakuro89]

If the DPS decides to go back and pull additional mobs after the tank/heals/other dps decided to leave them be, let him try and kill them by themselves. See if they learn anything from the experience.

[kehn]

what y'all need to do is stop telling people what to do in parties. I don't let anybody tell me how to dps, and don't let anybody tell me how to tank. if you have a suggestion, have it come with a "could you............... please" and i will consider it.