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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The tank could want to skip every trash pack skip-able, but if the rest of the group wants to down the things for exp, whelp the tank is going to have fun tanking those trash packs.
    tank are not the slave of the group.... like i have said, even if the 3 other want, if the tank don't want he is not forced to it. it's not a democracy... it's fair, everyone is there for have fun, if the tank don't want to pull everything.... he is not forced to go with the will of the group. if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    tank are not the slave of the group.... like i have said, even if the 3 other want, if the tank don't want he is not forced to it. it's not a democracy... it's fair, everyone is there for have fun, if the tank don't want to pull everything.... he is not forced to go with the will of the group. if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!
    The group isn't the tank's slave harem. If the other 3 in the party want to do something, the tank has three choices; to do it, leave or be kicked. The party group is most certainly a democracy. If the tank doesn't want to tank the trash the rest of the group wants to fight then he is free to leave.
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!
    If you want to set your own rules I suggest you take your own advice. In the duty finder your at the mercy of the majority, if you don't like it feel free to leave and save everyone the hassle of cattering to your special snowflake syndrom.
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    Rende Crow
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    tank are not the slave of the group.... like i have said, even if the 3 other want, if the tank don't want he is not forced to it. it's not a democracy... it's fair, everyone is there for have fun, if the tank don't want to pull everything.... he is not forced to go with the will of the group. if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!
    The tank is not the slave of the group? But the way you phrase it, it seems to me that you are suggesting that the group is the slave of the tank... Why should three people have to follow what one person wants? Pretty sure the one person should follow the three.

    EDIT: That being said I fully understand that groups need a leader, but just because you are the tank does not make you the default leader. If you are in a 4 man party and the other 3 people don't want you to be leader, then you are not the leader even if you are the tank.
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    Last edited by Rendecrow; 05-03-2015 at 07:02 AM.

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    Arugo Kusaragi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    The tank is not the slave of the group? But the way you phrase it, it seems to me that you are suggesting that the group is the slave of the tank... Why should three people have to follow what one person wants? Pretty sure the one person should follow the three.

    You guys are all missing the point here..
    Nobody HAS TO FOLLOW ANYBODY. If you don't like it and you're in the majority, KICK the oddball.
    If you're in the minority, don't cry when you get kicked, OR leave before it comes to that.

    It's just the state of things that healers and tanks have an advantage in this regard because they can requeue much quicker than dps, but is anyone seriously going to argue about the ethics of that?


    P.S. Have you noticed lately that Healers are the ones that actually get instaqueued? Not the tanks? Just some food for thought if you thought you had no leverage against a dicky tank, he has to wait in DF too, albeit only a few minutes.
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    PULSeTHIRTeeN's Avatar
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    Alaric Crissaegrim
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    Behemoth
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    To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

    If not, enjoy those queues.
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    Lexarious Ambicion
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PULSeTHIRTeeN View Post
    To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

    If not, enjoy those queues.
    It's not hard
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    Alaric Crissaegrim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexarious View Post
    It's not hard
    I never said tanking was hard, but its the job most don't want to do because it's not as fun as DDing.
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    Lexarious Ambicion
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    Quote Originally Posted by PULSeTHIRTeeN View Post
    I never said tanking was hard, but its the job most don't want to do because it's not as fun as DDing.
    Some people find it fun, some don't. Obviously more find dps fun but well I don't see why that matters. Don't find it fun? Don't play it. It's kind of dumb to play something you don't like and then act entitled about it. I prefer dpsing but I still act the same when I play a tank. With that said..far as the op goes, the group should decide on if you're skipping or not. I just get tired of how whiny tanks can be(really its everyone but I find more issues with tanks).
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    Last edited by Lexarious; 05-03-2015 at 10:27 AM.

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