Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[SDaemon]

WoW was way easier on tanking than what we have here. no stuff to spam for retake the aggros or stuff like this. anyway, that not the trouble, i wasn't aiming anyone in particular, but i'm clear, in DF tank is the lead.... that must'nt be changed or seriously the number of tank will drop more and more. because you will have no fun at all at play tank. they have oversimplified cycle of skill, without this control over the situation we are not different than a pet and will make the experience simply unbearable.

While the tank is in charge of pulling and holding aggro that doesn't make them the boss. Their skill level and role are just the most pronounced when setting the pace of the dungeon/content. The tank could want to skip every trash pack skip-able, but if the rest of the group wants to down the things for exp, whelp the tank is going to have fun tanking those trash packs.

[silentwindfr]

The tank could want to skip every trash pack skip-able, but if the rest of the group wants to down the things for exp, whelp the tank is going to have fun tanking those trash packs.

tank are not the slave of the group.... like i have said, even if the 3 other want, if the tank don't want he is not forced to it. it's not a democracy... it's fair, everyone is there for have fun, if the tank don't want to pull everything.... he is not forced to go with the will of the group. if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!

[SDaemon]

tank are not the slave of the group.... like i have said, even if the 3 other want, if the tank don't want he is not forced to it. it's not a democracy... it's fair, everyone is there for have fun, if the tank don't want to pull everything.... he is not forced to go with the will of the group. if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!

The group isn't the tank's slave harem. If the other 3 in the party want to do something, the tank has three choices; to do it, leave or be kicked. The party group is most certainly a democracy. If the tank doesn't want to tank the trash the rest of the group wants to fight then he is free to leave.

[Jynx]

if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!

If you want to set your own rules I suggest you take your own advice. In the duty finder your at the mercy of the majority, if you don't like it feel free to leave and save everyone the hassle of cattering to your special snowflake syndrom.

[Rendecrow]

tank are not the slave of the group.... like i have said, even if the 3 other want, if the tank don't want he is not forced to it. it's not a democracy... it's fair, everyone is there for have fun, if the tank don't want to pull everything.... he is not forced to go with the will of the group. if you want to make clean sweep in dungeon use PF!

The tank is not the slave of the group? But the way you phrase it, it seems to me that you are suggesting that the group is the slave of the tank... Why should three people have to follow what one person wants? Pretty sure the one person should follow the three.

EDIT: That being said I fully understand that groups need a leader, but just because you are the tank does not make you the default leader. If you are in a 4 man party and the other 3 people don't want you to be leader, then you are not the leader even if you are the tank.

[GenJoe]

The tank is not the slave of the group? But the way you phrase it, it seems to me that you are suggesting that the group is the slave of the tank... Why should three people have to follow what one person wants? Pretty sure the one person should follow the three.

You guys are all missing the point here..
Nobody HAS TO FOLLOW ANYBODY. If you don't like it and you're in the majority, KICK the oddball.
If you're in the minority, don't cry when you get kicked, OR leave before it comes to that.

It's just the state of things that healers and tanks have an advantage in this regard because they can requeue much quicker than dps, but is anyone seriously going to argue about the ethics of that?


P.S. Have you noticed lately that Healers are the ones that actually get instaqueued? Not the tanks? Just some food for thought if you thought you had no leverage against a dicky tank, he has to wait in DF too, albeit only a few minutes.

[PULSeTHIRTeeN]

To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

If not, enjoy those queues.

[Lexarious]

To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

If not, enjoy those queues.

It's not hard

[PULSeTHIRTeeN]

It's not hard

I never said tanking was hard, but its the job most don't want to do because it's not as fun as DDing.