Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Skeith-Adeline]

DPS aren't leash pets and have say in what should happen. It was 2 v 2, in which common ground should have been found. Tanks aren't entitled to dungeon leaders anyways.

[Kuurei]

DPS aren't leash pets and have say in what should happen. It was 2 v 2, in which common ground should have been found. Tanks aren't entitled to dungeon leaders anyways.

90% of the tank's job actually entails being group leader...>.> Otherwise we shouldn't be the ones shouldering the blame every time healers or DPS fail at their jobs.

[cgbspender]

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[DeadRiser]

I can't believe you joined a low level dungeon, and expected people not to say that.

Do you know how long the queues can be for those lower level dungeons as a dps? And no, I don't play dps that often. I main healer. But when I queue as a tank, even if I need to get out of there quickly, I am still kind enough to pull everything because it's not all about me.

There are FOUR players in your party, not two and then two more. It's funny you speak of how dps are entitled, yet here you are a person probably level synced...making the people trying to level get out the dungeon quicker instead of getting the experience they joined for in the first place.

Also, this is not your blog. Tumblr is that way >>>>>

[GenJoe]

when I queue as a tank, even if I need to get out of their quickly, I am still kind enough to pull everything because it's not all about me.

Really, even for a request (more like demand) like "No skipping anything."

[Skeith-Adeline]

90% of the tank's job actually entails being group leader...>.> Otherwise we shouldn't be the ones shouldering the blame every time healers or DPS fail at their jobs.

Why would it be a tanks fault if the healer didn't heal, or the DPS sucks? That makes no sense?

Tanks control the pace of the instance, not the entire instance itself.

[GenJoe]

Why would it be a tanks fault if the healer didn't heal, or the DPS sucks? That makes no sense?

Tanks control the pace of the instance, not the entire instance itself.

It isn't.. But the first step of a wipe = dead tank.
So without closer inspection of the underlying causes, you can't tell whose fault it was.. blaming tank is just the conclusion many noobs reach when they're unable to comprehend what just happened.

In many cases, that's the exact mind set upon a wipe "What just happened?"
"Oh, tank is dead, must be a noob tank"

Because most DPS tunnel vision and rarely ever watch the healer's heal output.

[MirielleLavandre]

I play all roles, but currently main WHM. As PLD, I detested when others pulled, because I believe tanks do often lead the party, and pulling is part of that. However, I do not believe tanks are the ones who set that pace -- that is the healer. Whenever I tank, I know for certain that if I go above the healer's capacity to heal, we will wipe and it will be my fault. Therefore, while I lead by pulling, the healer sets the actual pace of how quickly and how much I can pull. I think people are confused when they say tanks set the pace -- and as many have said, even if the tank and healer duo think speed runs are okay, if the dps isn't up to it, that will be a wipe as well -- teamwork, is what is needed more // and less confrontational attitudes (thank goodness I never pug dungeons at all...).

[kehn]

lol i main dps... and i'd never tell a tank what to do in a dungeon. and when i run the dungeons as tank i definitely run the dungeon how i want to. I remember when i was trying to finish my pld and people were trying to speed run dungeons for relic drop. AV i think it was and dps were killing the egg thingies and give a ton of exp, i asked them nicely not too... they kept doing it. and i left.... see what's faster.. do it my way or wait for another tank.

[Ashkendor]

There are FOUR players in your party, not two and then two more.

Maybe you should tell that to the BRD that threatened to facepull and his WHM friend that threatened to not heal.

here you are a person probably level synced...making the people trying to level get out the dungeon quicker instead of getting the experience they joined for in the first place.

If you read through the post, the OP would have been perfectly willing to pull additional mobs if asked nicely.

Honestly, I feel like this is a case of two sets of two people that just shouldn't have run a dungeon together at all since nobody was willing to compromise in any way. The tone was rude from the onset which, wrong or no, prompted a rude response from the OP and it snowballed from there. Not everyone is gonna get along. When I run into that, I do everything I can to get through the dungeon or I eat the 30 minute penalty. Either way, when it's all said and done I just dust myself off and steel myself for the queue again, hoping that I never see those people again.