PLD any better than WAR?

[Templeton_Leach]

At level 50 i find both equally fun and useful. But I got to admit, leveling a paladin was a pain in the rear. Warriors get good and easy to use quicker than paladin, defiance at 30 and overpower early as poop. I do however think you should level both up if you plan on tanking full time.
Just my thoughts on the matter.

[lvlagmarink]

In term of tanking potency, they are mostly the same.. However due to the nature of flash vers. overpower, paladin is harder to keep group enmity while warrior has it easier, but warrior has it harder tanking big hit due to the nature of obtaining 5 stacks wrath for inner beast while paladin's support is mostly off global cool down apart from stoneskin which usually fall to healer's doing..

[JimboTCB]

At level 50 i find both equally fun and useful. But I got to admit, leveling a paladin was a pain in the rear. Warriors get good and easy to use quicker than paladin, defiance at 30 and overpower early as poop. I do however think you should level both up if you plan on tanking full time.
Just my thoughts on the matter.

I would definitely agree with this, 30-39 as a paladin was painful at times - Sword and Shield Oath could definitely do with being swapped around in what level they unlock to make the levelling experience a bit smoother.

[Gaddes]

They're both good, but it's situational. Are you planning on doing a lot of main tanking? PLD is (usually) superior. If you're planning on off-tanking or doing a lot of multiple-mob management, then WAR is the way to go. I'm biased, but as a career PLD I'd almost say our job is way easier than a WAR in general, since all we usually need to worry about is properly managing our defensive cooldowns (the bad PLDs will blow them all way too fast and not stagger them properly).

It's kind of fun as a personal challenge to see how you can try to up your DPS as a PLD while still maintaining good defense... toss on some STR accessories, go full 30 STR on your attributes if you're comfy, and definitely learn when to stance-dance.

[Lucke]

I'm biased, but I hope Heavensward will re-introduce the 1.0 PLD skills we lost in ARR, mainly Sacred Oath (I think that was it's name) and Aegis boon.

Sacred Oath: Heals target giving the PLD a self heal of half the HP healed. EX: heal someone for 1000HP, get self-healed for 500HP.
Aegis Boon: 100% chance to block next attack, healing HP/MP for the value blocked (been so long, I forgot if AB heals HP or MP lol).

I wouldn't mind PLD getting more HP spells, like a stronger cure. That way, WARs can do more damage, but be more dependant on healers, whereas PLD do crap damage but they are more self-sufficient.

[Chihaya]

I'm willing to give tanking another go with pld, before leveling up a dps job, but thanks for the advice.

Not asking you to quit tanking but to watch other people play tank, learn from them.
Hard to watch what other tanks do when you are the only tank in 4 man contents.

[Adire]

I'm willing to give tanking another go with pld, before leveling up a dps job, but thanks for the advice.

Try tanking CT, ST, or WoD and watching the other tanks/asking for advice if needed, as someone just said. Or if you want even easier practice as a 50 tank with another tank you can watch with everyone being unsynced, try Praetorium and Castrum.

You may not be a perfect tank at them from the start (doubt you will be honestly, probably won't be for a while really as things get chaotic in raids at times and you seem inexperienced/nervous. There usually is less pressure on you though since there are 2 other tanks in raids, 5 other tanks for LoTA.), but as long as you're putting in effort, I'm sure people will appreciate you. Just let people know that you're newish. If they get mad if things don't go perfectly, that's on them.

I can't count the number of times I've seen ironworks/WoD geared tanks go into those, forget they're tanks, and just dps.

Your effort should be appreciated, and I can guarantee you will do a fine job compared to many more experienced and geared tanks that do what I just said. I know I'm personally much more patient with a newish/inexperienced/badly geared tank in there who is actually trying to tank than I am with experienced tanks who sit around and don't bother trying.

[CGMidlander]

IDK where you're getting your calculations, but a 20% increase in your defense is not 5~6% reduction in damage. In fact the real reduction changes with gear, so already, you've popped a hole in your own statement. The more defense you have base, the higher the amount increased is.

You know that the defense stat scales like poop, right?
http://valk.dancing-mad.com/methodology/#PDEF

Defense on armor barely increases with ilvl too.
The difference between an ilvl 55 tank chest and an ilvl130 tank chest is 21 def.

Foresight as it is now, and in the foreseeable future, is a pretty trash skill that you pop when you have nothing better to pop.

[Madepossible]

It's ironic that paladins are maintanks while their dps is equal if not higher than warriors when as OT. My question is why people want PLD as MT and not warrior? Since warriors can maintain aggro easily - and can add Storms eye during their rotations as MT -> which increases the dps of Nin/PLD -> why not? True we have more defense buffs, however, warrior is a tank too with defense buffs that equals PLD when it comes to MT.

[Lemuria]

I would definitely agree with this, 30-39 as a paladin was painful at times - Sword and Shield Oath could definitely do with being swapped around in what level they unlock to make the levelling experience a bit smoother.

I found Paladin the easier of the two simply because their AoE aggro isn't positional. Trying to get a crowd of casters to group up for Overpower can be a nightmare, so I found myself relying on Flash in the end anyway. The other benefit of Flash is that you can cast it quickly while moving to dodge an AoE, for example. You can do the same for Overpower, but it's harder to aim properly if you're dodging.

Another side note is that overpower interrupts combos while Flash doesn't, so Flash is useful to have on both classes regardless since you might lose the odd mob to high DPS and need to quickly grab his attention.

My question is why people want PLD as MT and not warrior? ...
True we have more defense buffs, however, warrior is a tank too with defense buffs that equals PLD when it comes to MT.

Hallowed Ground, simply put. As far as emergency skills go, it's a genuine life saver. Not merely for when you hit problems, but in general. Ten seconds of taking zero damage can be ten seconds of the most punishing damage dealing. As an example, it can reduce Titan's Mountain Buster to zero damage giving your healers some breathing room to heal party members from stomps.

If you know a big hit is coming, being able to cancel it out with one hundred percent DR is beyond powerful. Warrior just doesn't have anything close. Holmgang will save their life, but it won't save the healers much MP.