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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Judging from your other threads, I highly suggest you leveling a healer or dps just to watch other people play tank and learn from the good ones.
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    HakuroDK's Avatar
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    From personal experience, I find WAR more fun than PLD, but as far as which is better? Impossible to say as they're very different in playstyle.
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    King Canadane
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    Both are able to effectively take anything equally, including endgame. They're balanced really well.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Both are able to effectively take anything equally, including endgame. They're balanced really well.
    Until you do double paladin for T11. That fite for aggro sob sob.
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    Tobias Shadowmane
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    In a way it's like choosing a heavy turtle with a sharp pointy object over a maniac with a big bloody axe. There's little difference beyond the sub job ability selection. With that in mind while both are about the same as tanks. They go about doing it differently as folks may have mentioned.

    Here's a comparason

    This was a good video I saw to help me under stand paladin agro better. It's a level 50 guide and may or not be a bit that outdated. It is still a good place to start.

    This one is for lower level gladiators. Unfortunately I didn't see this one when I was learning the hard way.

    Xeno's Paladin 2.38 (some notes on changes)
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    Zertraya Rouge
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Judging from your other threads, I highly suggest you leveling a healer or dps just to watch other people play tank and learn from the good ones.
    I'm willing to give tanking another go with pld, before leveling up a dps job, but thanks for the advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -DMR- View Post
    I'm willing to give tanking another go with pld, before leveling up a dps job, but thanks for the advice.
    Not asking you to quit tanking but to watch other people play tank, learn from them.
    Hard to watch what other tanks do when you are the only tank in 4 man contents.
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by -DMR- View Post
    I'm willing to give tanking another go with pld, before leveling up a dps job, but thanks for the advice.
    Try tanking CT, ST, or WoD and watching the other tanks/asking for advice if needed, as someone just said. Or if you want even easier practice as a 50 tank with another tank you can watch with everyone being unsynced, try Praetorium and Castrum.

    You may not be a perfect tank at them from the start (doubt you will be honestly, probably won't be for a while really as things get chaotic in raids at times and you seem inexperienced/nervous. There usually is less pressure on you though since there are 2 other tanks in raids, 5 other tanks for LoTA.), but as long as you're putting in effort, I'm sure people will appreciate you. Just let people know that you're newish. If they get mad if things don't go perfectly, that's on them.

    I can't count the number of times I've seen ironworks/WoD geared tanks go into those, forget they're tanks, and just dps.

    Your effort should be appreciated, and I can guarantee you will do a fine job compared to many more experienced and geared tanks that do what I just said. I know I'm personally much more patient with a newish/inexperienced/badly geared tank in there who is actually trying to tank than I am with experienced tanks who sit around and don't bother trying.
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    Last edited by Adire; 04-28-2015 at 01:50 AM.

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    Totori Tori
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    Moogle
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    All these wrong and stupid comparisons.

    Proper and any sensible comparisons on CD management for damage mitigation are as followed:
    Defiance = Shield Oath
    Inner Beast = Rampart
    Vengeance = Sentinel
    Vengeance+Inner Beast > Anything a PLD can do (besides Hallowed Ground)

    When it comes to endgame tanking, people take PLD as MT because it takes less skill, less likely to screw up and lets WAR's keep up debuffs while doing full damage. But if a group really wanted to min/max on dps setups they would have a WAR MT and PLD OT because that's the most optimal dps for the two.
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    Last edited by desufin; 04-27-2015 at 03:38 PM.

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    Shannon Dawn
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    PLDs are better main tanks for their overall survivability. Shield Oath and the cooldowns make up for a better EHP. The PLD can also Stoneskin itself when needed.

    WAR is generally a better off-tank. Warrior has better dps potential and also adds nice debuffs such as Storm's Eye and Path that help both the MT as the dps. War can also hold packs of mobs better with Overpower and Flashes; the PLD often has it hard keeping enmity on packs of mobs when they run low on mp.

    On coils you ideally want to have both, at least on T13. On earlier coils a good group may run double warriors for increased damage and debuff uptime though.
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