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  1. #101
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't get why this is even a big deal to begin with. Low clear rates isn't going to affect "you" personally. Was there some golden measure of raid standards that I wasn't told?
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  2. #102
    Player Able's Avatar
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    Alinda Thorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Lol, who cares? You're actually embarrassed that Japanese players are better than us collectively? It's a video game, dude. Are you having fun? No? Then quit. Yes? Then don't worry about what people on other servers are doing.
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  3. #103
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Americans, NA place a high value on individuality rather then the team. Meaning they like fights where they doing something special or alone can change the course of the battle. Most Coils, most encounters and most of the class skills are not that powerful enough to make the skill-set of said players better. Its culture, Japanese players work way better together because they are less about individuals and care more working as a single unit.

    We want to be the thing that wins and changes the fights. However many encounters, especially the Final Coils are all about the team.

    In older games, a single good player could change a fight and make you win. However in this game a single player can't pull through and do all the mechanics for other people.

    If you see the content focus on less on teamwork and more on individual power I bet you will see Japanese players failing.
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  4. #104
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    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    The average download speed in Japan is 71.97 Mbps
    The average download speed in the USA is 35.16 Mbps
    The average download speed in Canada is 29.83

    The truth is that it's not about skill, or willingness to do said content. It's all about infrastructure. The desire to raid and ability to learn will always be trumped by the fact that NA consists of First-world nations with Third-world internet access. Latency in this game is EVERYTHING when dealing with 1-shot mechanics. Not to mention many ISPs here still think 3-5 Mbps is "good enough" and don't even offer anything faster.
    I'm from Argentina, several thousand kilometers to the south. No lag. Nice latency. I never get hit by mechanics. Maybe people should evaluate their ISP or just realize that their location is not optimal for mechanic-heavy MMOs.
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  5. #105
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    balte049's Avatar
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    Stralgarr Balte
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 24
    Download speed have barely anything to do with lag. It's all latency.

    MMOs are very playable with little to zero problems with a 1mbps download.


    If you're lagging its because your latency is high, or the server is having problems(which is way more probable).
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  6. #106
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I agree, this is a severe problem.

    You should come to Hyperion and get me my T9 and T10-13 wins.
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  7. #107
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    I'm from Argentina, several thousand kilometers to the south. No lag. Nice latency. I never get hit by mechanics. Maybe people should evaluate their ISP or just realize that their location is not optimal for mechanic-heavy MMOs.
    To be perfectly fair, comparing the network infrastructure of any country to that in the US of A is like comparing the sewer systems of any major city to the sewers in Rome. Sure, they still work with a little upkeep, but it doesn't mean that the foundation isn't the oldest out there. Might as well have SPQR printed on most of our network hubs.
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  8. #108
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Okay, I get that people have a thing against selling clears, and that's fine, but there's no way we should bring up selling clears as part of the problem of having less clears.
    In most cases, you're right. However, I guarantee there are people out there that end up completely demotivated to continue looking for learning/progression parties in PF if all they ever see are sell parties.
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  9. #109
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Able View Post
    Lol, who cares? You're actually embarrassed that Japanese players are better than us collectively? It's a video game, dude. Are you having fun? No? Then quit. Yes? Then don't worry about what people on other servers are doing.
    Yeah no, you have to admit this is hilarious. Yay, let's all realize coil is a competition!
    Must compete with Japan to be numero uno top tier Coilz! If I felt like I wanna do a competition I'd go play League for hours on end
    then stream it, at least I'd get some chump change out of it.
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  10. #110
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    Drakkaelus's Avatar
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    Drakkaelus Grimkaiser
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    This is embarrassing. We should be doing better than this.
    Why?

    They play the exact same game as us and we aren't even competitive compared to them.
    This is a competitive game?
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