Fan Census: This is embarrassing

[Tiggy]

According to one of the most recent fan census (http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...y_730k_active/) the North American servers have shown a pathetic and embarrassing completion rate for the final coil. Our best server, Gilgamesh, has 848 FCOB clears. When compared to the Japanese servers that would only put them in 16th for overall cumulative wins. When considered as a percentage of the server population the top 27 servers are all Japanese.

This is embarrassing. We should be doing better than this. They play the exact same game as us and we aren't even competitive compared to them.

(To clarify, this isn't just better percentages. Follow the link above and you can see that it's also in the sheer volume of wins. We lose in every metric.)

1 Chocobo (JP) 15.60%
2 Garuda (JP) 13.90%
3 Mandragora (JP) 13.80%
4 Carbuncle (JP) 13.70%
5 Ifrit (JP) 13.20%
6 Bahamut (JP) 13%
7 Tiamat (JP) 12.60%
8 Alexander (JP) 11.90%
9 Atomos (JP) 11.60%
10 Titan (JP) 11.20%
11 Fenrir (JP) 11%
12 Ramuh (JP) 11%
13 Anima (JP) 10%
14 Ixion (JP) 10%
15 Aegis (JP) (LEGACY) 9.80%
16 Gungnir (JP) (LEGACY) 9.80%
17 Durandal (JP) (LEGACY) 9.40%
18 Hades (JP) 9.20%
19 Ultima (JP) 9.20%
20 Valefor (JP) 8.80%
21 Masamune (JP) (LEGACY) 8.60%
22 Ridill (JP) (LEGACY) 8.30%
23 Typhon (JP) 8.20%
24 Unicorn (JP) 8.20%
25 Tonberry (JP) 7.30%
26 Kujata (JP) 6.30%
27 Pandaemonium (JP) 5.80%
28 Excalibur (NA) (LEGACY) 4.80%
29 Gilgamesh (NA) 4.50%
30 Belias (JP) 4.10%
31 Zeromus (JP) 4.10%
32 Hyperion (NA) (LEGACY) 4%
33 Ragnarok (EU) (LEGACY) 3.90%
34 Behemoth (NA) 3.50%
35 Sargatanas (NA) (LEGACY) 3.50%
36 Yojimbo (JP) 3.20%
37 Odin (EU) 3.20%
38 Adamantoise (NA) 3.10%
39 Asura (JP) 2.90%
40 Ultros (NA) 2.90%
41 Moogle (EU) 2.90%
42 Shinryu (JP) 2.80%
43 Leviathan (NA) 2.80%
44 Cactuar (NA) 2.70%
45 Midgardsormr (NA) 2.30%
46 Balmung (NA) (LEGACY) 2.30%
47 Shiva (EU) 2.30%
48 Diabolos (NA) 1.70%
49 Exodus (NA) 1.70%
50 Cerberus (EU) 1.40%
51 Phoenix (EU) 1.20%
52 Coeurl (NA) 1%
53 Goblin (NA) 1%
54 Malboro (NA) 0.80%
55 Lamia (NA) 0.80%
56 Siren (NA) 0.80%
57 Famfrit (NA) 0.80%
58 Faerie (NA) 0.70%
59 Brynhildr (NA) 0.60%
60 Mateus (NA) 0.50%
61 Zalera (NA) 0.30%
62 Jenova (NA) 0.30%
63 Lich (EU) 0.30%
64 Zodiark (EU) 0.10%

[Zaft]

What are you going to do? Carry the entire server? The people who want to get it done will get it done, and the ones who don't, won't.

[Iromi]

Heh, it seems silly to dump majority of the games resources in content that only .02% does.

In Heavensward we are apparently getting new raids and all new never before seen types of content. The devs are not dummies...they have to have this data and change things up a bit so more people will participate hopefully ^^;

[Malevicton]

As someone who's cleared fcob, what am I supposed to do with this information?

Or as a hypothetical someone who hasn't, what would I do with this information?

Also I feel like NA/EU has a lot more players who straight up don't care about coil, which is tough to quantify.

[Eye_Gore]

Does it take into consideration those who have attempted it vs those who don't even bother with it?

[myahele]

Not surprising, there's a difference if culture between, afterall.

[AkashiXI]

I'll try harder, sowwy I embarrassed you ;(

[Mugiawara]

How is it embarrassing? You can look at it from these sides:
1. Some people don't wanna raid
2. Some people can't raid because require's static and people have no time for.
3. People in NA are bad.
4. We have learned well...from both here and in-game, people can't listen worth a crap
and has an IQ of a cheese french fry. So I mean...

Also they tend to be more respectful and the probably won't
leave after 1 wipe and don't curse others to hell unlike people in DF and they probably listen better.

[LunaSnowfield]

How is it embarrassing? You can look at it from these sides:
1. Some people don't wanna raid
2. Some people can't raid because require's static and people have no time for.
3. People in NA are bad.
4. We have learned well...from both here and in-game, people can't listen worth a crap
and has an IQ of a cheese french fry. So I mean...

Also they tend to be more respectful and the probably won't
leave after 1 wipe and don't curse others to hell unlike people in DF and they probably listen better.

>People in NA are bad ( Bad no, just Lazy )
>Some people can't raid because require's static and people have no time for (This and because you´ve to watch videos, read guides , etc you cant just go and learn it because the mechanics are confused as hell.)

Basically because our community, they expect to do T5-T9 on first try, 1 wipe = everyone QQ RQ and leaves (this happen even more with PF than DF) also people calling/Trolling new players because they fail and then kicking them out of the party without even explaining what were their mistake.

[HakuroDK]

In a culture where the focus is placed on the individual, of course American servers are losing. The Japanese culture focuses on the group and therefore find it easier to clear content that requires teamwork.