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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Big deal, why don't you try something you can't predict or read from a script and beat it instead?

    I'm not asking for coils to be changed, there should be content like that in the game. However there should also be dynamic bosses, dynamic content, contested dungeons and raids. Stuff where you don't know whats going to happen whenever you go in. Even if you've done it hundreds of times.

    Honestly, its pretty much acting. You do what your told and you win.

    I won't deny that its "not hard" but "memorizing patterns and doing stuff because you know exactly when and where it happens, and what happens at each percent of HP is NOT fun."

    Having to body pull mobs and deal with wanderers and other players in the same zone is a fun experience, racing to bosses, dealing with random boss spawns and not being locked out of exiting a room when you confront a boss.

    "dynamic bosses" You mean Odin and behemoth fate? ya that's fun
    I play this game because machanic boss fight very intrested me, if they change it? ( I don't think they will ) I just going to play another game instead.

    What going to happen is ,if you get random boss with something that you can't " read from a script and beat it ?? " It still going to be a sandbag for player like HUNT ,Odin and if the boss has something like you have to do this in order for you to not die then you going to call it machanic driven and "not being locked out of exiting a room when you confront a boss." I can't imagine how CT going to be if people just die and comeback over and over it already easy enough with lock door and "machanic driven" .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veqluna View Post
    "not being locked out of exiting a room when you confront a boss.". how CT going to be if people just die and comeback over and over it already easy enough with lock door and "machanic driven" .
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss heals himself by 1-4%?
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss gets damage reduction?
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss deals more damage?
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss summons a minion that is strong?
    What about knockbacks, he knock backs the tank if he gets stunned too much and throws him back?
    What about randomly losing aggro and going after a random class?

    I'm familiar with such things, that is why there is rez sickness from reviving. I feel like there should be a buff like that too if you come back to a fight.

    These are not static mechanics. You don't have to do them, because hes like this maybe its easier to take the boss on with less people. However he dynamicly changes based on what happens in the fight.

    This is just one of many simple examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
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    There are bosses like that in Final Coil, which you would know if you actually did any of this content that you claim to know so much about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    There are bosses like that in Final Coil, which you would know if you actually did any of this content that you claim to know so much about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I for one dislike that kind of content so I don't do it, I don't care if I "cleared" it
    What? I don't remember saying anything of the sort.

    I am speaking of mostly the entire game, not a very few fights.

    But - I don't remember saying I claimed to know the fights. I can't stand scripts or acting. I simply know what i've read and been told from most of the thread, I guess those people and the OP are all just silly liars?

    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    What? I don't remember saying anything of the sort.

    I am speaking of mostly the entire game, not a very few fights.

    But - I don't remember saying I claimed to know the fights. I can't stand scripts or acting. I simply know what i've read and been told from most of the thread, I guess those people and the OP are all just silly liars?

    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
    How about when you try to argue something, you have your own experience to throw in there, not run off what you read in a book so to speak. All you ever do is complain, just stop and quit the game already, it isn't for you. If not, go do these fights then come back with your own view points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    How about when you try to argue something, you have your own experience to throw in there, not run off what you read in a book so to speak. All you ever do is complain, just stop and quit the game already, it isn't for you. If not, go do these fights then come back with your own view points.
    Excuse me:

    "Forum - Top - English - Forums - Community - General Discussion - Current State of End-Game Contents"

    This is the forum.
    This is the discussion.

    I am discussing what I think, it doesn't matter if I had "NO EXPERIENCE", i'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are. However, this remains: its a FORUM!

    I am attempting to address my concerns with the game, as the OP is.

    If you can't understand that, then why don't you stop posting? All you do is troll, and derail topics, why don't you play the game? Its obviously fine for you, this topic isn't for you. Its for people who want to discuss things about the game.

    Do you understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    Continue
    Its sad, because I see you following around every thread calling me names and attempting to derail my discussion. IS BORDERLINE harassment. Please leave me alone, and thank you.

    Do you not have anything better to do? How about you listen to yourself for a second: If the game is so perfect - why are you here? Play the game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
    In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

    The final phase has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charge combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them.

    I have yet to try T11 for myself, but the tethers in that fight are also random. How you deal with them depends on what tether combos you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

    The final phase also has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charges combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them..
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
    T10 is clearable even if a few deaths happen. It just makes the fight more difficult.
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