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  1. #1201
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    How about when you try to argue something, you have your own experience to throw in there, not run off what you read in a book so to speak. All you ever do is complain, just stop and quit the game already, it isn't for you. If not, go do these fights then come back with your own view points.
    Excuse me:

    "Forum - Top - English - Forums - Community - General Discussion - Current State of End-Game Contents"

    This is the forum.
    This is the discussion.

    I am discussing what I think, it doesn't matter if I had "NO EXPERIENCE", i'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are. However, this remains: its a FORUM!

    I am attempting to address my concerns with the game, as the OP is.

    If you can't understand that, then why don't you stop posting? All you do is troll, and derail topics, why don't you play the game? Its obviously fine for you, this topic isn't for you. Its for people who want to discuss things about the game.

    Do you understand?
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  2. #1202
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
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    Its sad, because I see you following around every thread calling me names and attempting to derail my discussion. IS BORDERLINE harassment. Please leave me alone, and thank you.

    Do you not have anything better to do? How about you listen to yourself for a second: If the game is so perfect - why are you here? Play the game!
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    Hearing shit coming out from someone that thinks Step of Faith is too hard isn't very convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
    In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

    The final phase has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charge combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them.

    I have yet to try T11 for myself, but the tethers in that fight are also random. How you deal with them depends on what tether combos you get.
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    Last edited by LunaHoshino; 04-20-2015 at 01:11 PM.

  5. #1205
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

    The final phase also has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charges combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them..
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
    T10 is clearable even if a few deaths happen. It just makes the fight more difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
    It's exactly what you said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss deals more damage?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I am discussing what I think, it doesn't matter if I had "NO EXPERIENCE", i'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are. However, this remains: its a FORUM!
    Of course you are. Problem is you are basing your posts as fact based on zero experience of what you are trying to preach about. Reading other posts and taking those as gospel just because they fall into your misconstrued idealism of what you think endgame is like whilst arguing contrary to those who have cleared all endgame content is asinine.

    You have no experience to back up your false claims thus making them invalid outside of your own ego.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

    You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.
    I think you should look in the mirror before accusing someone else of that.
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 04-20-2015 at 01:22 PM.

  8. #1208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Its sad, because I see you following around every thread calling me names and attempting to derail my discussion. IS BORDERLINE harassment. Please leave me alone, and thank you.
    Calling you names? Now you just make up things too. The way you're running this is like you read a critique's review of a film without ever watching it, and go around basing said review as your own opinion. You don't even know what the film is like for yourself. It's the same concept here, you have no experience and so your opinion isn't your own. You may not like scripted fights, ok, that is your opinion, but it isn't going to change, so the stance of this game not being for you is the same. I know what this forum is, and I know the topic, however you do act like you know it all, even if you haven't said it bluntly, when really you haven't done anything in the game yet.
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  9. #1209
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    Calling you names? Now you just make up things too. The way you're running this is like you read a critique's review of a film without ever watching it, and go around basing said review as your own opinion. You don't even know what the film is like for yourself. It's the same concept here, you have no experience and so your opinion isn't your own. You may not like scripted fights, ok, that is your opinion, but it isn't going to change, so the stance of this game not being for you is the same. I know what this forum is, and I know the topic, however you do act like you know it all, even if you haven't said it bluntly, when really you haven't done anything in the game yet.
    If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

    You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veqluna View Post
    "not being locked out of exiting a room when you confront a boss." I can't imagine how CT going to be if people just die and comeback over and over it already easy enough with lock door and "machanic driven" .
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss heals himself by 1-4%?
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss gets damage reduction?
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss deals more damage?
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss summons a minion that is strong?
    What about knockbacks, he knock backs the tank if he gets stunned too much and throws him back?

    What about randomly losing aggro and going after a random class?

    I'm familiar with such things, that is why there is rez sickness from reviving. I feel like there should be a buff like that too if you come back to a fight.

    These are not static mechanics. You don't have to do them, because hes like this maybe its easier to take the boss on with less people. However he dynamicly changes based on what happens in the fight.

    This is just one of many simple examples.
    Did you actually die in CT with all that simple machanic ? I know it has some "Machanic driven" but It's not that much.

    and all that you suggest is something I call very poorly design and not very creative at all that you have to die in order to boss to get something that make it hard??er?? since complain about "machanic driven" if you cut that off I don't know what are going to make someone die at all unless you make it that boss hit harder or more HP that you have to hit it for like 1 Hour then someone might as well die because they are sleepy or you want to cut off aggro table off to then it going to be like gw2

    even tho T9 has some machanic like meteor that I think it's the worst , but I rather deal with hundred of meteor than what you suggest

    boss heals himself by 1-4%?
    Lunar dynamo that if you can't dodge it boss get heath ........................Better than die

    boss deals more damage?
    It's already has it in some of the boss that increasing by time ]...........................Still better than die

    boss summons a minion that is strong?
    in T6 that you have to let the boss suck you in in order to not spawn the infinite add ] ........................Still better and creative than die

    What about randomly losing aggro and going after a random class?
    It already has boss that random hit skill to someone like ifirt EX that healer have to keep distance from party and still better than die

    What about knockbacks, he knock backs the tank if he gets stunned too much and throws him back?
    really ? since boss already have stun and knockback already then you just want it to combine together and call it NEW?
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    Last edited by Veqluna; 04-20-2015 at 01:27 PM. Reason: Limit
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