8 man "raids" = final content?

[KazumaFaemura]

I'm just going to put in my 2 cents. I have done coil up to Second Coil Turn 4 and I have completed all 3 raids for Crystal Tower, Personally I prefer the 24 man raids more than I enjoy coil. The reason I like 24 man raids is because it feels epic being part of a larger group to take on a common goal than a team of 8 players. In a team of 8 doing Coil it doesn't feel as massive as a typical MMO should, and people complaining that they have a hard enough time getting 7 other players need to rethink their schedules, or question the commitment of their team. Yes everyone has a life outside of the game but if you made a commitment to do something then you should at least stick by it unless something IRL does come up. Getting raids together just all comes down to scheduling, look at EVE Online. I ran a pretty big corp in that game and my mining/production director would schedule mining operations on the weekends and we would have 10 or more players usually show up.

[Casper]

I'm just going to put in my 2 cents. I have done coil up to Second Coil Turn 4 [...] and people complaining that they have a hard enough time getting 7 other players need to rethink their schedules, or question the commitment of their team.

About your commitment to downing content that is only over a year old and has only 20% echo.

Look, you want to take the game as casually as possible, be my guest. But don't come lecture people about how easy it is to coordinate a raid team when you have done literally zero content requiring such a team.

[KazumaFaemura]

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I did T5 and failed multiple times before the echo came out so yes I am a little late to coil party. I don't causally play this game either otherwise I'd completely skip the binding coils entirely. Have I tried putting teams together? Yes I have, also where in my post did I say it was easy? Because I sure don't remember saying it was. So please do tell me more of how hard it is to schedule a time to attempt a raid for a few hours. Because it sure doesn't seem hard for my FC to it. Anyway it doesn't seem that hard to sit down and ask everyone what would a good date and time to run coil.

[Spoekes]

Also the game isn't a year old yet, that isn't till August.

The game came out in August '13, just Saiyan.

[KazumaFaemura]

The game came out in August '13, just Saiyan.

Oh my mistake, I'm thinking of the PS4 release which was April last year. Thank you for correcting me.

[Wintersandman]

Anyway it doesn't seem that hard to sit down and ask everyone what would a good date and time to run coil.

You would be surprised. Time zones bring a whole new complexity to coordinating schedules.

Also in regards to 24 mans, I am baffled how it feels like more of a team effort when you are in there with misc random players from across servers that never talk to each other unless there is a mistake, then it turns into a flamefest. I can barely stand any of the towers as there is no respect for the other players.

[KazumaFaemura]

You would be surprised. Time zones bring a whole new complexity to coordinating schedules.

Also in regards to 24 mans, I am baffled how it feels like more of a team effort when you are in there with misc random players from across servers that never talk to each other unless there is a mistake, then it turns into a flamefest. I can barely stand any of the towers as there is no respect for the other players.

I can understand how you feel about the 24 man raids, it shows clearly during LOTA. The amount of rudeness in that one raid is worse than I've seen in ST and WoD, I don't know what it is about LOTA that just brings out the worse in people. Normally I'm just the quiet one that just rolls with the flow, I just don't agree with how most of mechanics are handled. Being as melee heavy as I am I hate having to run through the poison just to kill the skels. Anyway, time zones can be hard I agree but it's not impossible.

[Wintersandman]

Anyway, time zones can be hard I agree but it's not impossible.

For me the majority of statics are while I am still at work and I work bankers hours (8-5). Timezone challenges are real. Static starts at 8pm EST (good time for a majority of the nation) but that is 4pm my time and I will be at work getting home when everyone is wrapping up or the group has already been filled.

[KazumaFaemura]

For me the majority of statics are while I am still at work and I work bankers hours (8-5). Timezone challenges are real. Static starts at 8pm EST (good time for a majority of the nation) but that is 4pm my time and I will be at work getting home when everyone is wrapping up or the group has already been filled.

And you work weekends?