8 man "raids" = final content?

[Cynfael]

Eh, I'd just ignore him at this point. Obviously what he wants is to generate a firestorm around himself that he can smggly stand at the center of. It's not worth it and I doubt his suggestion will hold any weight with SE at this point.

I'm sure we'll see harder 24 mans eventually, when player skill is considered to be high enough to attempt such a thing. As for the rest, not worth even giving the time of day. If infamy is what you want, that's easy to get, but the infamous are eventually forgotten.

Yes, it's a blatant troll thread.

However, I will contribute to the extent of saying that I'd be surprised to see SE coming out with truly challenging 24-player raids. Player skill really won't improve, on average; this game seems designed to succeed well with the more casual market, and if it's the case that the players who clear end-game content constitute a low percentage of the player base, they won't be looking to rewrite their formula any time soon.

Besides, as others have said, the focus on 8-man teams offers a different dynamic from that in other games on the market. Large-scale raids do tend to give players the sense of being lost in a crowd, and acquiring, coaching, and retaining that many players for your raids can quickly become a full-time job. The smaller scale here requires fewer players to coordinate, but the emphasis on individual skill is higher than in other MMO end-games I've done.

[Krr]

Yes, it's a blatant troll thread.

watch out, nekrage's dad works at square-enix and he can get you banned

[RaginCajun]

watch out, nekrage's dad works at square-enix and he can get you banned

lol feel bad for the guy, it would appear his accomplishments in life revolve around him being the greatest ever at all things involving end game raids in videogames, need I say more?

[ShaneDawn]

Well, since we don't have a big ass guild, we're just your average plebs whose opinion doesn't matter. Nekrage-sama is just of a that much higher prestige than we are.

Judging by the threads I read, it seems that you were one of those scrubs in fact disillusioned by numbers. 700 members stomping people on a large scale pvp means nothing. Your elitistic attitude here means nothing. No one gives a sheite about your AA guild, so stop thinking your opinions are somehow superior when they're not. In this game, you are nothing more than a noob still getting to play any real content. I wish you luck in completing all of the Coils and learning the value of Quality>Quantity.

[Zenaku]

LMAO all you do is make topic to talk **** about ffxiv. So just like your hack post i be reporting this one too. But seem like you do this a lot going to each MMO then talking **** about it. I guess that how you think you get more subs on youtube/twitch.

[ShiroSteve]

The OP clearly doesn't manage a raid team.

[stoxastic]

The hardcore player population in this game cannot support a 24 man raid with the comparable difficulty to FCoB. There's just not enough people. WoW in its heyday had sooooo many players and could support huge raids.

[Iagainsti]

I can only go by experience in FFXI, but it was effing hard to get ppl together for 18 man bosses, granted stuff like Panda and Abso Virtue took HOURS to beat, I think the 8 man solution is great for this type of game, as we see in CT, 24 man stuff is just button mashing the HP to zero, most times ignoring many mechanics. Orchestrating some of the challenging and exciting Coil mechanics would be a pain to formulate for 24 ppl, and Coil would be crap if it was a "stand there and button mash your combo till boss hits 0%" like other popular MMOs.

[KazumaFaemura]

I'm just going to put in my 2 cents. I have done coil up to Second Coil Turn 4 and I have completed all 3 raids for Crystal Tower, Personally I prefer the 24 man raids more than I enjoy coil. The reason I like 24 man raids is because it feels epic being part of a larger group to take on a common goal than a team of 8 players. In a team of 8 doing Coil it doesn't feel as massive as a typical MMO should, and people complaining that they have a hard enough time getting 7 other players need to rethink their schedules, or question the commitment of their team. Yes everyone has a life outside of the game but if you made a commitment to do something then you should at least stick by it unless something IRL does come up. Getting raids together just all comes down to scheduling, look at EVE Online. I ran a pretty big corp in that game and my mining/production director would schedule mining operations on the weekends and we would have 10 or more players usually show up.

[Casper]

I'm just going to put in my 2 cents. I have done coil up to Second Coil Turn 4 [...] and people complaining that they have a hard enough time getting 7 other players need to rethink their schedules, or question the commitment of their team.

About your commitment to downing content that is only over a year old and has only 20% echo.

Look, you want to take the game as casually as possible, be my guest. But don't come lecture people about how easy it is to coordinate a raid team when you have done literally zero content requiring such a team.