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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Yeah its a bit different when you dont have millions and another crafter already at those reaches tho.
    It may make it easier, but it's not hard to make a few mil these days, even without any crafts leveled.

    The Master II books that shanvhere has been complaining I got using the blue quest main hand tool, without: reclaim, innovation, inginuity 2, careful synthisis 2. Did that for 4 classes and after making 3HQ for the book, never had the 5 NQ ones needed for supra hand in. So if I can do that, it's pretty obvious they are not as "hardcore" as shanvhere is making them out to be. With all cross class skills and good gear they are crazy easy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    It may make it easier, but it's not hard to make a few mil these days, even without any crafts leveled.

    The Master II books that shanvhere has been complaining I got using the blue quest main hand tool, without: reclaim, innovation, inginuity 2, careful synthisis 2. Did that for 4 classes and after making 3HQ for the book, never had the 5 NQ ones needed for supra hand in. So if I can do that, it's pretty obvious they are not as "hardcore" as shanvhere is making them out to be. With all cross class skills and good gear they are crazy easy now.
    In order to be 4* capable you need Artisans Off hands. Those arent cheap.
    Based on your wording you also had gil for spending on 12 MDs.

    Altho I'm still wondering why exactly you did the Master II books with your class main hand. Or how exactly you are 4* capable using those..
    Quote Originally Posted by GenJoe View Post
    While true.. it's kinda hard to sympathize with this





    I for one, am glad that the end-game crafting comes with a bit of a challenge. That's pretty much what's keeping all the botters and RMT gil buyers from taking over the end-game market because you can't just throw money at the problem and be done with it.

    Perhaps.
    But it's no excuse for boasting that its easy and fast to level crafting...and blatently ignoring you just spend over 10 million (depending on server) to do so...
    obviously for someone actually new to crafting it will not be so easy or fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    In order to be 4* capable you need Artisans Off hands. Those arent cheap.
    Based on your wording you also had gil for spending on 12 MDs.

    Altho I'm still wondering why exactly you did the Master II books with your class main hand. Or how exactly you are 4* capable using those..
    Offhands cost like 800k, I unlocked the books first, then got Supra, to be geared for 4*

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Perhaps.
    But it's no excuse for boasting that its easy and fast to level crafting...and blatently ignoring you just spend over 10 million (depending on server) to do so...
    obviously for someone actually new to crafting it will not be so easy or fast.
    Leveling crafts is very cheap and easy these days.

    Getting 4* unlocked and geared is more costly I agree, BUT it's Not Hard, like the other poster is claiming.

    Also making 10mil these days is not exactly difficult, even with crafts leveled. Could easily do it in a week spiritbonding, on my server atleast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Also making 10mil these days is not exactly difficult, even with crafts leveled. Could easily do it in a week spiritbonding, on my server atleast.
    That doesn't seem right. Imagine a long play session of 4 hours. And you're doing two of those, so 8 hours over the weekend.

    How much time would it take you to create enough sets to make 10 million, and then you have to spend time melding all the pieces, how much would it cost you in base matts, how much time would it take to run Karn Hard mode full clear? There is absolutely no way you could make 10mil in gross let alone profit in a weekend sb session.

    Once people have a bankroll of gill and matts they forget how hard it is to make money. If someone had no matts and 1 million gil, they couldn't turn that into 10 million over a weekend.

    That's one reason we all need to be saving our pennies to go into heavansward with a huge bankroll. I'm wildly unsubstantiated guessing airships will be over 100mil.
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