Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

Mod says:

Originally Posted by Grekumah

Since the new system regarding the Disciples of the Hand, tentatively referred to as crafting specialists, pertains to Heavensward, we ask that you please hang on until we release more concrete information as we get closer to release. However, it will be possible to have various specializations on a single character. Hang tight a bit longer!

your response...

Originally Posted by Nyalia

So, wait, we can only spec in a single craft at a time? ... I'll just drop my sub and move on with my life.

Uhh, what? Nyalia. There are going to be tons of sweet things to craft, you'll get to do it with people, and there will be new challenges, new markets, and a much better defined roll for crafters. Hold judgement until you see it. By time you get through the storyline, they'll be able to implement balance changes if that needs to happen.

Congrats on the 1st born!

Originally Posted by Nyalia

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Giantslayer speculated something like:

Only casual crafters specialize. This allows them to do 4* and 5* recipes without cross class skills.

Omnicraft's wouldn't need to spec.

Seems plausible.

I do small scale team crafting. The efficiency added allows gil to be made.

If you don't have an FC with a house, you will be locked out of team crafting for an airship. I expect the airship to be a gill synch, team crafting to be fun & worth the gil.

I spend time checking people's gear as they walk about. Who signed their crafted gear? I love to see friendly crafter's names. There have been hints that you'll be able to do more than sign items in 3.0. People will be see an item and know it's a Nyalia! That's a big bonus, too me.

Your scenario? A small price to pay for the other added improvements, imo. But I also don't think your scenario has been foreshadowed as such.

Originally Posted by Nyalia

Did you miss the part where...

That's not how I translate the quote.

After saying, "It will also be possible to choose multiple specializations." (Seems clear.) He gets asked if one could switch specializations? You use the word delay. But he says it will take time.

I'll wait and see how it pans out. It seems like he says over and over, there is plenty to do for hardcore omini crafters who are willing to blow gil on melds and a way for the casual players to remain relevant. As long as there is plenty for me to craft, and a bunch of cool new game mechanics I want to be a part of, I'll be happy.

Like many here, I want to remain an omni crafter! I think that's for the best. I think we've been given indication that we will be able to do that without alts.

But if that doesn't happen, I'll keep the team crafting airships and the cool gathering system despite the bathwater.

For all the people freaking out, they're going to treat it similar to how they did with the Grand Companies. You'll have your specialist crafting class to get the new recipes and skills, and then once a certain point is achieved, you'll be able to change which crafting class you're specialized in at a certain capped interval. So it'll be okay. You'll just have to plan out how you can effectively and efficiently transition between the specializations. More info was discussed at PAX East and I am posting the link below for everyone to read the recap.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ast_interview/

The blind white-knighting is offensively delusional. It's quite prudent to not freak out given the lack of details on the specialization system, but to say the devs have super fun sunshine and rainbows in store for it is naive.

I'm not freaking out. I'm thinking rationally and inferring what the specialization system has in store based on past design decisions and the few statements made about the specialization system at PaxEast. I do not like what the system is shaping out to be. It is better to voice the concerns of what you would dislike about a system while there is still time to make changes to it.

Omnicrafters level all of the crafting jobs for many reasons--making gil, being self-sufficient, helping their friends/FC mates, enjoying the crafting system--not just because one feels obligated in order to do end-game crafting (which, btw, the devs have no one to blame but themselves for people needing to have all the crafts maxxed and at least GSM desynth maxxed in order to participate in end-game crafting). I want to be able to craft every recipe I am otherwise capable of crafting whenever I desire. I should have an equal probability of HQ'ing a synth whether I am specialized or not. While specialized, I should not be locked out of another classes' special recipes if I have unlocked them. Any system that goes against these principles is not a system I support.

From what I have seen so far, that's exactly what the specialization system is going to do. You will select a specializationa and "level" it up in some way, unlocking special recipes and/or actions/traits. You can only make these synths while in that specialization. You can switch specializations after a given amount of time (whether in-game or RL), keeping your progress like GCs.

For me, that's no good at all. However, if specializations granted other perks, or allowed people that only wanted to do a couple of crafts the ability to make end-game crafts I'd be all for it.

1) Allowing 1/2-star to be quick synthed.
2) Increasing HQ percentage of quick synths.
3) Reducing material cost of 1/2-star 40 durability crafts.
4) Removing shard/cluster/crystal cost up to a certain level.
5) Granting cross-class equivalent abilities for players that only want to level x craft instead of all of them, allowing 3/4/5-star crafting.
6) No loss of materials on failed synths.

The only exception to the above is content that is supposed to be group/FC crafting. Airships/Houses I'm fine if we are only locked into one class until switching. If the airships and houses will require as much co-op play, time and money they say it will, then it only makes sense to have those participating specialize and contribute in a specific way for a given amount of time.

For all the people freaking out, they're going to treat it similar to how they did with the Grand Companies. You'll have your specialist crafting class to get the new recipes and skills, and then once a certain point is achieved, you'll be able to change which crafting class you're specialized in at a certain capped interval. So it'll be okay.

No, it'll be pointless. No one's gonna switch and eat a cooldown for a single recipie, they're gonna level an alt.

Limiting which crafts a single character can do is a good thing. I completely welcome the change.