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    Firepower Shinryu
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    By forcing specialisation similar to FFXI's style It would allow square to make it easier to be a top crafter because not everyone can be the best at all crafts, it was similar to desynthesis where you had a set number of levels above a certain threshold of which all jobs could be levelled to so you could distribute your crafts equally but then you are unlikely to make any money so it just made sense to use all your levels on one craft and get that to max whilst the others sit at cap. If you levelled another craft above the level it would take one away from the other.

    Then the issue with FFXIV's crafting system is it is too easy to cap every craft and then use all the skills to make everything so they had to create barriers to the highest crafted stuff by making it quite a grind to get the higher level craft weapons and require some investment into materia to then make the market more stable. By forcing specailsation no single person can craft all equipment provided they got the gear, that means they can make the barriers to entry easier on the hardest to craft stuff as you have already made it significantly rarer by limiting each person to one craft at cap. I would assume by following this method they could make it easier for people to be a high level crafter, for instance a newcomer to the game right now would have an awful grind to get all the key jobs to cap for the skills and accumulate a decent amount of gil to buy the top gear before grinding for a lucis. Heavensward should reset this (although the grind to 50 to get all the skills will not be likely to be removed) Introducing specialisation will then allow any newcomers to not only catch up but then not have to level all the crafts to 60 ontop of the grind.
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    The biggest issue with crafted DoW/DoM items is the cost in materia to make them viable. Ignoring the cost, most pieces can be BiS. If they add TV materia in 3.0, I see a huge boom in crafted gear.
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    Ahh tier V materia, you're thinking it too?

    About a week ago, I was contemplating hoarding tier 4 materia so I can make some profit upon HW release then the thought of tier V materia possibly being introduced stopped me from doing that

    Maybe the stat materia value will appreciate though.. Still speculating..
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    I've been anticipating TV materia since 2.1 when they added the carbon matter for it, this patch for sure we'll get it.

    >.>
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    I've been anticipating TV materia since 2.1 when they added the carbon matter for it, this patch for sure we'll get it.

    >.>
    Not to be a Debbie Downer, but it's plausible that they haven't added it yet because they knew they'd be scrapping the materia system when the expansion rolled out.

    I just don't share your optimism. Unless you are on a server where non-crafters are swimming in gil I don't see why a person would go to crafted gear when there are much cheaper alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    I just don't share your optimism. Unless you are on a server where non-crafters are swimming in gil I don't see why a person would go to crafted gear when there are much cheaper alternatives.
    Same here, if the PAX East interview is to be taken as truth (the part about not wanting dungeon loots always being best in slot) I see potential for the gear market, but for the most part I still see most people opting for free dungeon loot instead of spending millions on new gear.. It'll probably be something that'll have crazy high prices ~10m for a couple weeks as people are shooting for server firsts, then drop down to 2-3m a month later and just stay there rotting. I don't mind it though, gives me something to work towards as soon as expansion hits and that's where the money will be
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    Just finished leveling/gearing my alt in supra and unlocking 4* for everything, Lucis next, then we'll find out you can specialise in everything on 1 char xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Just finished leveling/gearing my alt in supra and unlocking 4* for everything, Lucis next, then we'll find out you can specialise in everything on 1 char xD
    Wouldn't surprise me if Specializations are Jobs for DoH. GSM is Marauder what GSM-Specialist is to Warrior. If they limit cross classes skills to 2-3 classes like Jobs are then I think that'd add some much needed variety between the crafting professions.

    Also, you must really like crafting. The MSQ is enough reason for me to not level an alt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    Also, you must really like crafting. The MSQ is enough reason for me to not level an alt.
    With the new information coming out about Isgard's accessibility (I think we can still access Ishgard without 2.55 story being done) I'm willing to take the risk and just get my alts up to builder status.. then maybe just the token gear to prepare. If anything, I'll still have all the desynths covered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    The MSQ is enough reason for me to not level an alt.
    Alt was already a l50 blm with most the MSQ unlocked luckily! ^^
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