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    Atreides's Avatar
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    No because you are not guaranteed to have a NIN in all of your parties, while the NIN is guaranteed to have trick attack in all of its parties. That's like saying parses aren't accurate because there is no selene there for buffs.
    The fact remains that Nin work with a debuff that works for all classes and have access to it while parsing, so when a Nin does about the same damage as a Monk he will of course beat them because Monks do not have access to it.
    On a parser it's easy to beat a Monk but if said Monk hits on the same dummy it's a whole other story.
    If anything Ninjas beat monks in offensive utility.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 03-16-2015 at 08:04 AM.

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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    The fact remains that Nin work with a debuff that works for all classes and have access to it while parsing, so when a Nin does about the same damage as a Monk he will of course beat them because Monks do not have access to it.
    On a parser it's easy to beat a Monk but if said Monk hits on the same dummy it's a whole other story, yet they are in denyal because they don't want any other classclose to them.
    If anything Ninjas beat monks in offensive utility.
    The fact remains that you will not always have a NIN in your party so those parses will not always reflect the trick attack damage. Which is why I gave the Selene example. While Selene may boost my damage, I am not guaranteed to see her out giving me fey light every fight, therefore she is excluded from all of my parses. Things like food and pots are acceptable because they are something that I will always have available for myself. NIN has a similar situation with WAR putting up their Storms Eye for the NIN, but in a parse I would never allow that because I am not always guaranteed to have a WAR in my party and even then I might not get SE from the WAR when he is due to having to deal with mechanics ETC.
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