Why bring MNK to anything anymore?

[trailmix9999]

Since most everyone is hitting 130 its really starting to level out that DRG and NIN are the superior dps is pretty much any and all situations. Dragon kick is no longer needed and tbh was never really needed. Between disembowel and trick attack plus the war and nin synergy, MNK just feels useless. Its been shown many times that base dps is on par with MNK from both and with the combined dps MNK is completely outshined. Not to mention the unfair advantage of war/nin and drg/brd synergy, in which bringing war and brd is a must. So, we have all of this synergy and on top of that you have the inherent problems with MNK and breaks in fights and a basic inability to solo anything at full dps potential, and positionals which both nin and drg have become complete facerolls. Im just trying to understand the logic behind the melee dps balance because the dps ceiling for mnk which isnt any higher than nin or drg isnt worth all the negatives anymore. MNK needs work.

[abzoluut]

I take it you talk about FCOB since you mentioned DK is not needed anymore.

Can you explain, with DPS numbers, how DRG and NIN always outdps MNKs?

[Slappah]

Monk is fine

[Dyne_Fellpool]

Monk is the highest single-target dps, regardless of item level. If your whole team was i600 Monk would still top the parse on 1 target.

[Ossom]

This is a stupid thread.

"Omgerd my class isn't outclassing other classes completely."

Every single class in this game can beat every single fight in this game, until that changes then there is nothing that needs to be fixed. Stop crying.

[ClaireAbigail]

As a monk main, monk is fine and perfect the way it is. High risk, high reward, fast paced and a nice set of utilities from dragon kick to mantra to using fist of earth as a little "oh shit button". We made a mistake back then in t10 that caused 3 of the dps and 1 healer to drop dead from electric burst at 1% I survived with 7hp thanks to switching to fist of the earth my raid members can testify to that.

[Viviza]

Monks bring competitive damage and the best defensive abilities of any dps. The job's playstyle is unique with fast, positional movements, and sometimes risky efforts to keep stacks going.

The job is both effective and appealing. It doesn't need attention.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

Monk does not need work at all. It's deals perfectly good dps as it is.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Monk is the greatest ST damage if the person understands their class. This post is invalid.

[SpookyGhost]

Blade Runner has a point, but I think it's a bit misguided. From what I've seen recently, NIN and DRG can theoretically contribute more overall DPS than MNK. However, what you're not really taking into account is the very thing you started your OP with:

Since most everyone is hitting 130

At this point, everything is on farm. If not, DK and Mantra are still very valuable in learning content. Beyond i130, into Heavensward, they will be equally valuable as they have always been. We don't know what utility they'll give DRG/NIN, but we also don't know what they'll give MNK. It's hard to speculate now what the balance will be, but I think DK and Mantra will always have a place in high end raids. For now, in i130 gear, it either doesn't matter what jobs you bring or you could use DK and Mantra to help progress.