The Monk Temple Reborn

[Xashyu]

Get gud pamyu

Hak pls ; ; come on Coeurl more often so we can chat moar

Try Accuracy Foods.

Accuracy foods are OP and let you get rediculous stat weights.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OJ13 <- this is one build i made with Flint Caviar - is this any better? and what actually is BiS for current patch? o_o

All that aside, what kind of skill speed i should cap at?

[SpookyGhost]

The only oGCD buff really worth holding ToD for is IR (since the two can have aligned timers), and even then only for like 3 seconds.

ToD's animation takes more than a second, so if it actually falls off before you hit ToD again, you've let it fall off for an entire GCD, and that's what might be feeling strange. It's more like you hit it at 4-3s to clip and 2-1s to reapply right after it falls off.

Alright, that clears everything up. Thanks for the concise response!

[Ossom]

RE: Lucrezia's opener (and any opener that has B4B directly before Demo):

At my current SkS (434) I have to wait a second at the end of Twin's GCD to apply Demo with B4B up every time after the initial application. Is there something I'm doing wrong here or is it just my SkS? I'm not actually sure if I'm messing up the rotation somehow or what either. For reference, I go:

PB -> Snap -> PPP -> Snap -> B4B -> Demo -> Twin -> Pot -> DK -> IR -> Touch -> Boot -> True -> Snap -> DK -> Twin -> Demo

Are you talking about waiting after the bolded Twin for the Demo to drop to reapply it with B4B? Then yes, this is because you have so much skill speed. Anyways, if Demo is under like 3 seconds, I would just overwrite it anyways, you would gain more damage by not clipping your GCD at all and also ensuring that Demo gets the B4B.

Other than that, I don't save, or recommend saving B4B Unless its maybe 1 or 2 GCD away from Demo. My rotation and SS is set up so that you don't even get the optiion to save B4B, its going to come up right before Demo, and if its a little slow you can pop a fracture to buy it 2 more seconds. Pretty much every B4B I do now has 2 Demos in it, the only time my rotation messes up is due to mechanics at this point and even then I just pop B4B whenever it comes up. Also, keep Touch of Death up, you want to get it up in the Internal Releases. Its a strong skill and it cost a lot of TP, you want to get a bang for your buck.

[Altijacek]

I'm concerned about my DPS. I'm pretty sure I have a near perfect rotation (I also use fracture on occasion, wisely to reserve TP if necessary). I did t10 with this gear set up: 115 shiva weapon, 120 poetic gear EVERYWHERE except: belt was from t10, one ring was 110 from t7, and the earrings were augmented ironworks. My DPS in t10 was 414, with one death that lasted a little over 5 seconds, and I got targeted for wild charge twice losing my stacks. I keep reading that everyone is dealing 580 damage or ridiculous shit like that. How the hell am I supposed to do that? Did the rotation change? Is it really just gear? Or did dying and weakness and charges really make that much of a difference? All of these things? Thanks

Wanted to clarify, I didn't have a dragon kick bitch and there was no bard or ninja for TP XD I didn't use food, poison or strength potions either. I think I answered my own question lol

[Ricdeau]

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It's less about rotation and more about adjusting to the situation. I mean for the most part you follow a general rotation on your combos, but mechanics will force you to adjust. Quick adjustment helps keep buff/debuff/DOT downtime to a minimum. You're also using an i115 weapon, and a lot of us are using i125-135 weapons. Some of the fight can be RNG in terms of getting targeted for charges, and dying certainly didn't help you. However, I'd say even given that 414 is a little low. I'd really step back and examine what you are doing specifically on adds. Are wasting buffs/debuffs/DOTs by refreshing them when the add/s are just about to die?

Also can you elaborate on what you're doing as a rotation?

Edit - Just caught your edit. No bard and ninja can be a real detriment to DPS overall if you're spending a lot of time TP dry. Also why aren't you using food? At least get something cheap! You don't need to use pots if you don't want to. I'm regularly out of str pots, and I still do 550+ on the fight if I'm not unlucky with getting targeted repeatedly. You also don't need someone else doing DK to get super high numbers.

[SpookyGhost]

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Sorry, I was a bit vague in that explanation. I meant when B4B comes up again later on in the rotation, it lines up directly with Demo, but if I leave out a GCD (Touch) then there's a 1-2s gap and I end up sitting there waiting for B4B to come off CD. Sunny explained that saving Touch for B4B wasn't worth it, so with Touch filling the gap, B4B comes off CD right before Demo perfectly. I do everything in the rotation I listed immediately, but @ the 3rd Demo one of the two DoTs will fall off for a GCD before I can reapply it. Not sure if that's a SkS thing or just something that happens naturally with how they're aligned (they're usually ticking exactly the same after the second application of Demo).

Thanks for the info about B4B, though. I was wondering if saving it for Demo application when you're elsewhere in a combo was worth it or not.

[Ricdeau]

Hak pls ; ; come on Coeurl more often so we can chat moar



http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OJ13 <- this is one build i made with Flint Caviar - is this any better? and what actually is BiS for current patch? o_o

All that aside, what kind of skill speed i should cap at?

Are you planning on using crafted gear at all or just purely i130? From what you've posted it just looks like you plan to use i130 only from the other set you linked. BiS with no crafted gear is this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUKD. This results in a 0.72 str increase over what you linked. Either set would be extremely capable.

[Xashyu]

Are you planning on using crafted gear at all or just purely i130? From what you've posted it just looks like you plan to use i130 only from the other set you linked. BiS with no crafted gear is this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUKD. This results in a 0.72 str increase over what you linked. Either set would be extremely capable.

I do plan to use crafted gear too. Thanks for the full i130 no crafted gear link though - what is the BiS with crafted?

[Ricdeau]

I do plan to use crafted gear too. Thanks for the full i130 no crafted gear link though - what is the BiS with crafted?

I haven't really sat down to look at it since once you get multiple pieces of crafted gear pentamelded you're looking at 10's of millions. My belt alone ran me 6 million between getting crafted and all the materia. You need to ask yourself how much you're willing to spend, and then adjust your set according how many crafted pieces you can realistically afford. I wouldn't really suggest going after more than three or so pieces. You'll have to be fairly loaded to get that alone...or some insane luck.

[Xashyu]

I haven't really sat down to look at it since once you get multiple pieces of crafted gear pentamelded you're looking at 10's of millions. My belt alone ran me 6 million between getting crafted and all the materia. You need to ask yourself how much you're willing to spend, and then adjust your set according how many crafted pieces you can realistically afford. I wouldn't really suggest going after more than three or so pieces. You'll have to be fairly loaded to get that alone...or some insane luck.

Sometimes we just need to pray to RNGesus xD though i would like to know BiS including crafted, too. ; ;