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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogy View Post
    On what page can I find the BIS for Crafted and Non-Crafted? It seems like they are scattered.
    This isn't based on super rigorous testing or exhaustive searching, but it is based on some testing... other BiS listings you'll find probably aren't.

    Non-crafted (crit/det on weapon, Dreadwyrm Claws selected): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QD0T

    For an almost as good variation (-46 crit, +47 skill speed), switch to the weirdly melded Zeta on that link (7 crit, 37 acc, 31 det on Sphere Scroll -> 8 crit, 44 acc, 38 det on Zeta) and swap in the Aladdin Dreadwyrm Slops of Striking. YMMV on the 432 skill speed, but I feel that's a good compromise between damage contribution, TP drain, and ease of play. In my opinion, skill speed is a bit of a personal preference thing.

    There is a possibility that an 18 accuracy Zeta (15 on scroll) might make the Demon Circlet of Striking superior to the Dreadwyrm Circlet of Striking, but I haven't done enough testing that I'd bet on it.

    Crafted: i dunno lol
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    Last edited by SunnyHirose; 04-13-2015 at 05:06 AM. Reason: made an oopsie

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Aladdin
    Excuse me, my aladdin pants are amazing, thank you.
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    i suppose that will add some dps then since youre cutting off the time to get into position without animation?

    does this matter a lot?
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    If you'd wait for the animation to go off it'd be vastly more annoying to hit your positionals on the GCD. If you ride the flank/rear line though it shouldn't make much of a DPS difference either way.
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    Finally got a 600+ T11 on MNK.

    Been on the cusp for awhile, sooo many 595 runs T_T

    anyways since reddit thinks my FC's dps is shit imma just stop posting my runs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Finally got a 600+ T11 on MNK.

    Been on the cusp for awhile, sooo many 595 runs T_T

    anyways since reddit thinks my FC's dps is shit imma just stop posting my runs
    Yeah, I get just below 600 in there fairly often. Just can't seem to get that run that goes right. Also I agree with the comment on Reddit, but I guess on a broader scale. Players in general just always reference the absolute highest number they see as the go to numbers you should be pulling without factoring in strategies or group comp. I would also wager that many of these people aren't pulling anywhere near the numbers some of us do on any turn optimized or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i suppose that will add some dps then since youre cutting off the time to get into position without animation?

    does this matter a lot?
    As long as you start moving sometime during the animation you should be fine. Doesn't need to be immediately, and as Sleigh mentioned if you are riding the rear/flank line movement is minimal for most parts of a fight anyway.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 04-14-2015 at 12:28 AM.

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    Q: What DPS should I do in T__?

    A: Here is the parse from our world record speed run and if you don't do this much you are bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Q: What DPS should I do in T__?

    A: Here is the parse from our world record speed run and if you don't do this much you are bad.
    If that's a shot referencing the Angered speekills that's hilarious, their kills look similar to simply high dps kills rather than optimized dps strat

    No, their arguement was we don't have 650 ninjas or <6:00 kills on a lot of the fights so our dps is shitty and our tanks are parry specc'd or something.

    Anyone who needs reference to what their DPS can get to or what they can be able to do, this sheet is a really good reference and we update it whenever new scores are posted. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=722665224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    No, their arguement was we don't have 650 ninjas or <6:00 kills on a lot of the fights so our dps is shitty and our tanks are parry specc'd or something.
    Nah, I'm talking about half the answers any time a similar question comes up. My favorite is when the person asking is like "my iLvl is 10 under BiS and my weapon is 20 under" and people post BiS numbers anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Nah, I'm talking about half the answers any time a similar question comes up. My favorite is when the person asking is like "my iLvl is 10 under BiS and my weapon is 20 under" and people post BiS numbers anyway.
    Then you post the low-ball numbers (i.e. what you were doing at that ilevel) and the downvote brigade shows up. >.>
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