The Monk Temple Reborn

[nanaoei]

@ those rings i110 crafted rings---barely offer more, either.
Your accuracy can go up, gain a little extra skillspeed, and afford you the chance to fit in an extra crafted or higher weighted piece in general but it still amounts to a small increase.

-------------About BiS-------------
This is just me nit-picking in an unnecessary or uneducated way, but i currently think the way "Best in Slot" is used to describe these gearsets (and there are multiple of them) is a little superfluous.
It's mostly because it's somewhat open to interpretation, and somewhere out there someone in fact did do better math than you to create a better set.
What i mean to articulate is that for the current options for monks, you don't have to feel as though one set is immediately better than the other when you can currently hit accuracy (ideally, barely) and you make reasonable gear 'choices'. The dreadwyrm chest for example is almost an immediate downgrade unless you're working with w/ i120 and below; even then the accuracy ratio it has (gaining accuracy over poetics chest for losing good stats) is not bad. It's just that on paper it's a piece that's difficult to fit in because of the amount of accuracy it contributes.

Which is why i ask most players to simply play the best they can and worry about their gear as an afterthought. Both ideas go hand in hand and prove to make you a better player as you understand your upper limits and what you would regard as bare minimum. It also makes it more fun to have a goal to work towards--of course--but that's all part of your own responsibilities and is a basic way we've learned to enjoy this game.

Please take it from me. If you find yourself working extremely hard to achieve those goals but end up feeling negative over raid, you may be slightly overlooking the uncontrollable reality that this is a team game.

There are so many ways to improve damage across the entire raid even if you don't directly influence your own.
leadership, strategy, and what have you


--Just hope you guys have fun, and get what you hope to achieve.

[Butcherboy]

Well i finally got my ilvl zeta weapon im so happy since i doint do coils due to work schedule. i just recently updated some gear choices such as rep my 110 penta meld boots for 130 poe boots im not sure if that was a good choice. i only have 1 ilvl on the right side thst is the earring penta meld. the rest r 130 poe besides the 1 ring if a rumah one, im not sure what to put there.

[Victorixvii]

Ok my Fellow monks where are all the Good 4minute parse videos cause as it stands we are looking rather bad with videos like these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVnFWIo1B6E guy mercy strokes and tbh this could have been better.
Then we got this one where he is ilvl 130 using poison pots str pots food tho i dont see any party buff but mercy strokes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZVCvEPARE

This is probably the best one i have found for his gear is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Gxz9nVtcI

So this is abit of a call to arms with all these ninja videos doing 640 dps (that 660 video) would'nt have been that high if he had gone for the full 4min parse.
So where are all the monk videos doing 640+

I would love to do it myself but i still need a few more drops mostly the dread choker earrings and dread ring here is my current gear http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6777347/ as it stands im holding around 615-620 with around 31-33% crit rate.

[ClaireAbigail]

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With everyone parsing differently, it's hard to determine which rotation is better, which one can do more dmg, how long is it supposed to be? Which moves are allowed and not allowed, food buffs, potions, party buff, etc. etc. If you want a straight out dps contest with them we need to outline some "rules" so no one can cry foul about anything from both sides.


Here's what I wanna see:
5min parse, foods allowed, potions allowed, can use assassinate/mercy stroke ONCE at the 4 min mark. Must not be in a party. With an equal geared monk and ninja, who will come out at top?

[Odowla]

With everyone parsing differently, it's hard to determine which rotation is better, which one can do more dmg, how long is it supposed to be? Which moves are allowed and not allowed, food buffs, potions, party buff, etc. etc. If you want a straight out dps contest with them we need to outline some "rules" so no one can cry foul about anything from both sides.


Here's what I wanna see:
5min parse, foods allowed, potions allowed, can use assassinate/mercy stroke ONCE at the 4 min mark. Must not be in a party. With an equal geared monk and ninja, who will come out at top?

Neither cause they'll both be TP starved for a whole minute.

[ClaireAbigail]

Nyan nyan

Neither cause they'll both be TP starved for a whole minute.

Fine 4min 30 sec I think that's doable! Using the first phase on t12 as a reference, a bennu spawns every min, so with using that as a reference, our group gets 4 Bennus and pushes phase we have an extra 30-40 seconds to spare before the 5th one lands or 10-20 seconds if we decide not to limit break it. That's a solid 4min 30 seconds of pure dps. And I'm sure that the bard is not using paeon and no one is holding back or else we will get the fifth bennu.

But I'm just rambling! Here's the video for proof that you can dps nonstop without paeon or goad for 4min 30sec non stop in t12!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7n50_VmXtPA. Don't watch the last phase it's super messy >_> it was our first clear! Oh and this was before zeta weapons. I was on ilvl 130, drg was on HA, brd and blm on ilvl 125

All I'm trying to say that 4min 30 sec is a decent time to parse yourself and see how you're doing.

Disclaimer:
Just trying to show that it's possible to do it. I'm not claiming my dps is super amazing, my rotation is not perfect!

[Odowla]

4:30 is a good one, but it's still kind og tight. D:

[Ossom]

4:30 works, I usually prefer 3:00 because this is right when PB comes back up.

But 4:30 works. I think the best would be:

Food, X-Pot, Party Buff allowed.

State your iLv, Your Weapon, and how much Str you have.

No Mercy Stroke allowed, this is just stupid to include IMHO.

No rockbreaking Multiple Targets, no Howling Fisting multiple targets, no nin Debuff on target, no selene buff, no dragon kick b****, etc..

If you post a parse for a specific fight, might be best to include if you have a nin in the group and if you have dragon kick b****, along with how many LBs you used and what variant of LB you use (1,2,3). In these fights, of course, in these fights, anything goes.

[Odowla]

I also have a new Optimal opener. Here.

This is the Highest PPS opener. This one bursts ~750 or so and I usually finish around 630 - 600 our of party.

[Ricdeau]

4:30 is a good one, but it's still kind og tight. D:

Agreed, if you have moderate SS then 4:30 is generally fine, but I think ~4 minutes will give a broader testing bed for people. As much as I am a fan of having longer parses (to give a better reading on overall crit %) SS has a big effect on how long you can really parse if you don't have anyone feeding you TP at all.

But yeah, agreeing with the sentiment that people need to start stating the criteria for their parses (I know I've mentioned it in the past). People just like to cherry pick certain parses, but then don't share some of the specifics that you might not be able to see. In response to what Ossom said, I think even going further is to share your exact gear since ilvl alone is deceptive if you are wearing crafted gear.