The Monk Temple Reborn

[Ossom]

RE: Lucrezia's opener (and any opener that has B4B directly before Demo):

At my current SkS (434) I have to wait a second at the end of Twin's GCD to apply Demo with B4B up every time after the initial application. Is there something I'm doing wrong here or is it just my SkS? I'm not actually sure if I'm messing up the rotation somehow or what either. For reference, I go:

PB -> Snap -> PPP -> Snap -> B4B -> Demo -> Twin -> Pot -> DK -> IR -> Touch -> Boot -> True -> Snap -> DK -> Twin -> Demo

Are you talking about waiting after the bolded Twin for the Demo to drop to reapply it with B4B? Then yes, this is because you have so much skill speed. Anyways, if Demo is under like 3 seconds, I would just overwrite it anyways, you would gain more damage by not clipping your GCD at all and also ensuring that Demo gets the B4B.

Other than that, I don't save, or recommend saving B4B Unless its maybe 1 or 2 GCD away from Demo. My rotation and SS is set up so that you don't even get the optiion to save B4B, its going to come up right before Demo, and if its a little slow you can pop a fracture to buy it 2 more seconds. Pretty much every B4B I do now has 2 Demos in it, the only time my rotation messes up is due to mechanics at this point and even then I just pop B4B whenever it comes up. Also, keep Touch of Death up, you want to get it up in the Internal Releases. Its a strong skill and it cost a lot of TP, you want to get a bang for your buck.

[Altijacek]

I'm concerned about my DPS. I'm pretty sure I have a near perfect rotation (I also use fracture on occasion, wisely to reserve TP if necessary). I did t10 with this gear set up: 115 shiva weapon, 120 poetic gear EVERYWHERE except: belt was from t10, one ring was 110 from t7, and the earrings were augmented ironworks. My DPS in t10 was 414, with one death that lasted a little over 5 seconds, and I got targeted for wild charge twice losing my stacks. I keep reading that everyone is dealing 580 damage or ridiculous shit like that. How the hell am I supposed to do that? Did the rotation change? Is it really just gear? Or did dying and weakness and charges really make that much of a difference? All of these things? Thanks

Wanted to clarify, I didn't have a dragon kick bitch and there was no bard or ninja for TP XD I didn't use food, poison or strength potions either. I think I answered my own question lol

[Ricdeau]

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It's less about rotation and more about adjusting to the situation. I mean for the most part you follow a general rotation on your combos, but mechanics will force you to adjust. Quick adjustment helps keep buff/debuff/DOT downtime to a minimum. You're also using an i115 weapon, and a lot of us are using i125-135 weapons. Some of the fight can be RNG in terms of getting targeted for charges, and dying certainly didn't help you. However, I'd say even given that 414 is a little low. I'd really step back and examine what you are doing specifically on adds. Are wasting buffs/debuffs/DOTs by refreshing them when the add/s are just about to die?

Also can you elaborate on what you're doing as a rotation?

Edit - Just caught your edit. No bard and ninja can be a real detriment to DPS overall if you're spending a lot of time TP dry. Also why aren't you using food? At least get something cheap! You don't need to use pots if you don't want to. I'm regularly out of str pots, and I still do 550+ on the fight if I'm not unlucky with getting targeted repeatedly. You also don't need someone else doing DK to get super high numbers.

[Altijacek]

Are wasting buffs/debuffs/DOTs by refreshing them when the add/s are just about to die?

Also can you elaborate on what you're doing as a rotation?

I'm very cautious about using dragon kick on an add that's about to die, or dots for that matter. Generally I just do the regular opener followed by touch of death after perfect balance is up, then boot, true, demolish, dragon, twin, snap, boot, true, snap, dragon, twin, demolish, etc. I'd like to think I'm doing everything near perfectly because I do include fracture and touch of death at the right times without letting dragon or twin fall off and such, but yeah I'm sure there is something I'm not doing correctly. What SHOULD I be hitting, without a death and at 115 for t10? I'm pretty sure I can do 450-475 without being targeted and without dying

[THETRUESELF]

I'm very cautious about using dragon kick on an add that's about to die, or dots for that matter. Generally I just do the regular opener followed by touch of death after perfect balance is up, then boot, true, demolish, dragon, twin, snap, boot, true, snap, dragon, twin, demolish, etc. I'd like to think I'm doing everything near perfectly because I do include fracture and touch of death at the right times without letting dragon or twin fall off and such, but yeah I'm sure there is something I'm not doing correctly. What SHOULD I be hitting, without a death and at 115 for t10? I'm pretty sure I can do 450-475 without being targeted and without dying

I think I was at 482~ with i116 back then (with bard/solo mnk/no nin/no pots/no ppp/with bufffood). idk if that's an average number though.

Are you planning on using crafted gear at all or just purely i130? From what you've posted it just looks like you plan to use i130 only from the other set you linked. BiS with no crafted gear is this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUKD. This results in a 0.72 str increase over what you linked. Either set would be extremely capable.

I'm actually a lot of cheaper. I'm not willing to spend 100k on food for a single raidday, so I don't buy/craft Caviar and just use Risotto. So my BiS is again 0,78 weight lost compared to "correct" BiS. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSAQ
Just don't think it's that necessary if you are willing not to see perfect DPS numbers. Can clear all content without a probem and the gear will be useless anyway after 3.0 hits. With that being said;; It depends on your server price for the Caviar of course. ((or if you have a personal crafter/raidlead who do this stuff for you.))

[Ricdeau]

I'm actually a lot of cheaper. I'm not willing to spend 100k on food for a single raidday, so I don't buy/craft Caviar and just use Risotto. So my BiS is again 0,78 weight lost compared to "correct" BiS. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSAQ
Just don't think it's that necessary if you are willing not to see perfect DPS numbers. Can clear all content without a probem and the gear will be useless anyway after 3.0 hits. With that being said;; It depends on your server price for the Caviar of course. ((or if you have a personal crafter/raidlead who do this stuff for you.))

I don't use Caviar either. Too expensive and no one in my guild can make it HQ. People just love asking for THE BiS regardless of price as you can see when people start asking for BiS sets including crafted pieces. So I'll show them on paper what the numbers say is best. I made the belt and pentamelded it, and if I had it to do over again I'm not so sure I would have made the thing.

[THETRUESELF]

I don't use Caviar either. Too expensive and no one in my guild can make it HQ. People just love asking for THE BiS regardless of price as you can see when people start asking for BiS sets including crafted pieces. So I'll show them on paper what the numbers say is best. I made the belt and pentamelded it, and if I had it to do over again I'm not so sure I would have made the thing.

Okay, good then. C: It's kinda "sad" though, we need to distinguish "affordable BiS" and "expensive BiS" :x