Final coil in duty finder

[DoubleD]

just go in with a fully formed group.

This really goes both ways. Why don't they do learning on pre-formed groups? It's also a server issue. Even for farm parties, small pop servers have a very hard time forming pre-made. And I guess same could be said for forming pre-formed learning parties.

The big problem is not enough people even attempt to try it until it gets nerfed. Thus actually learning (or never learning until they actually get carried) the fights way way way after they were implemented into the game, which causes this huge rift of every 1 person to know the fight, being grouped with 2 or 3 who don't.

Once it becomes obsolete content, I figure the kill lockdown should also be unlocked. But theres gonna be a ton of people who can easily clear FCoB, and their weapon will not drop while its under a weekly lockout, and sadly will have to DF it with and deal with all the blinds.

And i'm not sure if there's an official statement anywhere, but judging how they stager releasing content in DF after making it pre-formed party only, I do think they designed it so that things appear in DF after they are considered easily farmable.

I use DF expecting to get clears, not having to write a guide.

The only exception is a legitimately new player starting the game and you can usually tell by their gear.

[CYoung187]

Who are you kidding, most DF groups will wipe to T10's trash

Yes because most people who have cleared t9 are garbage.

Whatever makes you feel better.

With hunts giving i130 for free, coil has already been nerfed via gear upgrades.

[Atomnium]

Similar what we’ve done in the past for the previous Coil content, Final Coil will be added to the Duty Finder at some point in the future; however, I do not have a concrete time frame to share with you at the moment.

Hold on a second "Similar what we’ve done in the past for the previous Coil content"...
Does it mean that you are going to nerf fcob for duty finder just like you did with scob? This is really outrageous O.O;

I'm so going to get flamed.

[SinisterIsBack]

Yes because most people who have cleared t9 are garbage.

Whatever makes you feel better.

With hunts giving i130 for free, coil has already been nerfed via gear upgrades.

The problem with coil in DF and why i'll never go back and try it is that people cant be bothered to at least watch a video first. They wait and hope they get carried through it.

Sorry, you're not breaking my back.

If you excuse for not watching a video is "I want to experience it" ... well then.. experience it with a preformed first.

[ColeSlawter]

Who are you kidding, most DF groups will wipe to T10's trash

Not with a ninja. And even can get past everything except first group with any other job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPuYysnbwGc

[Krr]

Apropos of nothing: S-E, please include a (Legacy) mode when FCOB is nerfed so that players who want to do the hard version like...can. Yes it'll probably be dead content, who cares because it doesn't really cost anything but a few instance servers to make.

[Shinji_Ryukishi]

Snip

This. They say they "want to experience it," and then after the first wipe and them not knowing any of the mechanics whatsoever, you end up having to spend 15 minutes writing a guide for them. It's not fair at all. Do you think I would have ever gone into T5 in df without knowing anything? Hell no. I watched several videos and even took notes. Going into coil blindly and expecting people to do all the work/explain everything to you is lazy and selfish. I've gotten to the point where if I'm in a DF coil and someone is completely clueless I tell them to take 10 minutes and watch a guide on youtube. It'll save us time in the long run.

[PrimeEvilPanda]

I honestly don't see a problem with having at least some content that requires a committed group working together. This is an MMO, not a single player game; there should be some things that have to be approached as a static group, not as a group of randoms.

Yeah, that's nice and all until the game dies down and those "committed" players stay "committed" to their own groups and you'll be going "waaahhh, there's no one joining this group I formed in PF; waaah, no one in the FC is available; waaaahhh LFG is dead".

It would be nice to have this MMO implement a contingency plan now rather than later and to have the option (key word here) to group with friends and tackle hard content rather than it be forced to group with people you don't know because, let's face it, friends leave, FC's die and those "randoms" you look down on will be the only source of manpower you have for tackling that content.

I'm showing my age, but I made life-long friends in MMO's by grouping with them when I first knew them as "randoms". And unfortunately those friends move on to other MMO's, so it's a cycle. You haven't experienced it yet (doesn't sound like you have) so I wouldn't put my eggs all in one basket if you seriously want to play this game long time.

[Fynlar]

Hold on a second "Similar what we’ve done in the past for the previous Coil content"...
Does it mean that you are going to nerf fcob for duty finder just like you did with scob? This is really outrageous O.O;

Do you really have to ask?

Everything gets nerfed eventually. If BCoB and SCoB are any indication, FCoB will be no exception.

[Sapphic]

No one except the Bard did anything interesting for the first 3 pulls of T2 despite the entire trash gauntlet taking like 5 minutes and being at least half the encounter.

I must have imagined running t2 as MNK and having to silence the ADS (same with t1) or when I ran as PLD having to silence, or using silence on SCH with Selene also. Good to know :P Theres very few fights in game which cant be done with 2xSCHs and thats mostly due to large party based damage, aka turn 13. Turn 12 is manageable with 2 SCHs, as the only real AE damage is rebirth which can be mitigated with Succor and Fey covenant. Turn 12 gives plenty of time to AE heal with 2xSCHs after nerve cloud.

Having the "optimal" set up does make it easier, but outside of needing a WHM and SCH for turn 13, everything else is doable without the perfect set up.

And tbhh, wouldn't surprise me if some managed to clear t13 with double SCH XD