Final coil in duty finder

[rappa]

On Moogle i see turn 10-12 PF clear.

The last weekend, we killed turn 13 with a pug, 4 members of my fc, 2 from another and one from other. Nobody had killed turn 13 excepting me.

[Nominous]

That's unfortunate. PF PUGs here clear t10-12 and some are either done with T13 or are working hard on it. Last I heard from a friend who does weekly PUG raiding is that they've gotten to Teraflare.

DF, not PF. Our PF isn't entirely too reliable, but I know quite a few parties composed of people who exclusively clear through it. It's probably not this way in unpopulated servers, which is why people want it in DF so badly, but I don't think they quite understand the struggle of Duty Finding Coil yet.

[GlooWonderingdream]

Its always been a issue in mmo from those who love the game but have limited time to invest VS those who have plenty of time to play. The idea of subscription FEE is that u paid money to come home and play not sit back and wait 3- 6 mnth for SE to justify stealing money from you till they allow causal ff14 gamers to queue for the end game. (WHAT ARE CASUALS MEANT TO DO WAIT 3- 6 mnth behind unsub till you add to duty finder SE ?).

PLEASE dont bring up how they scale 3-6mnth LATER so casuals can farm left over from hardcore thats just selfish its about being fair to fans not about being fair to ego manics ! EVERYONE gets the same chance to loot each week AS PAID FOR ! period...

[GlooWonderingdream]

So stop talking like a booster and consider the perceptions fairly cos some of us been around since launch and watched how friends and players we play with slowly leave one by one from negative effect this system SE has implemented (FAIL MMO systems) LETS INVITE FRIENDS TO GET LEFT BEHIND IN THE GAME OR LETS BOOT HIM COS HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH, SORRY FRIEND YOU NOT GOOD ENOUGH REMOVE ! lol why even give rewards to invite FRIENDS as stated in the pitch when what you need are STATICS DEVOTES !

"RECRUIT A DEVOTE GAMER FOR REWARD !"

[DoubleD]

So stop talking like a booster and consider the perceptions fairly cos some of us been around since launch and watched how friends and players we play with slowly leave one by one from negative effect this system SE has implemented (FAIL MMO systems) LETS INVITE FRIENDS TO GET LEFT BEHIND IN THE GAME OR LETS BOOT HIM COS HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH, SORRY FRIEND YOU NOT GOOD ENOUGH REMOVE ! lol why even give rewards to invite FRIENDS as stated in the pitch when what you need are STATICS DEVOTES !

"RECRUIT A DEVOTE GAMER FOR REWARD !"

obviously he/she isn't really a "friend" if the other "friends" are willing to kick him/her to the curb like that. Your party of "friends" should help them out when possible.

I have a RL friend playing with me that refuses to even attempt to learn any mechanics etc and only take him places when the content is totally beatable by marking a spot on the floor and telling him not to move. That's his choice. I'm not going to go to DF with him and expect 6 other random people to cover for him.

He won't even attempt to participate in mechanics and does not want to because he feels this game should all be about standing in one spot and punching the boss and dodging the telegraph AOE's.

Got him through to T8 so far lol. We're gonna try T9 with our FC and him immediately running out of bounds and dying this weekend.

[DoubleD]

Its always been a issue in mmo from those who love the game but have limited time to invest VS those who have plenty of time to play. The idea of subscription FEE is that u paid money to come home and play not sit back and wait 3- 6 mnth for SE to justify stealing money from you till they allow causal ff14 gamers to queue for the end game. (WHAT ARE CASUALS MEANT TO DO WAIT 3- 6 mnth behind unsub till you add to duty finder SE ?).

PLEASE dont bring up how they scale 3-6mnth LATER so casuals can farm left over from hardcore thats just selfish its about being fair to fans not about being fair to ego manics ! EVERYONE gets the same chance to loot each week AS PAID FOR ! period...

BTW, what is so hard about the concept of casuals attempting to form their own learning parties in PF, and access it through PF. Especially on a server like Tonberry. There is a good population on there.

[SarcasmMisser]

FCoB has frequent pugging on Tonberry, at least the first 2 turns.

Here's the thing: they expect things from you and have standards. Just like a static! Hell pugs are harsher than statics, there's no good faith and they won't ignore minor mistakes. It's like statics have absolutely nothing to do with accessibility and it's more to do with the content being tackled. But it is convenient to blame nepotism and cliques rather than content being difficult because with the latter the only thing that prevents you doing content is you.

[Kalut]

Even if its on DF now, i doubt it would result in much success, itll pretty much be like t9 df now only more painful until they nerf the fights to the ground.

[Werhusky]

FCoB has frequent pugging on Tonberry, at least the first 2 turns.

Here's the thing: they expect things from you and have standards. Just like a static! Hell pugs are harsher than statics, there's no good faith and they won't ignore minor mistakes. It's like statics have absolutely nothing to do with accessibility and it's more to do with the content being tackled. But it is convenient to blame nepotism and cliques rather than content being difficult because with the latter the only thing that prevents you doing content is you.

PUGs can be horrible... joined T9 farm on sunday second try we got to divebombs but marker overslept marking - 3 people ragequit >.>

[CYoung187]

Even if its on DF now, i doubt it would result in much success, itll pretty much be like t9 df now only more painful until they nerf the fights to the ground.

Better for people to get some experience then have it blocked just because. I doubt hardly anyone DFs t9 expecting to clear it, they do it to get a small amount of experience with the fight.